On 1/30/11, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > Send AccessIndia mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of AccessIndia digest..." > > > Please do not reply to this digest mail. You should put your comments into a > new mail with appropriate subject line. > _______________________________________________ > AccessIndia mailing list > [email protected] > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Disabled should help enumerators to prepare correct census > (Pradeep banakar) > 2. Re: e72 (Pranav Lal) > 3. Re: UID number and inclusion of Disability? (Dr. mittal) > 4. Re: e72 (Jean Parker) > 5. Re: UID number and inclusion of Disability? > (Srinivasu Chakravarthula) > 6. Re: Taking Backup Of Various Folders In Outlook Express > (Sandeep Gautam) > 7. Re: Disabled should help enumerators to prepare correct > census (Prashant Verma) > 8. Moderator: Re: Computer terms. (Harish Kotian) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 07:43:14 +0530 > From: "Pradeep banakar" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: [AI] Disabled should help enumerators to prepare correct > census > Message-ID: <DFCEB7507B8940789958EE52C23AA661@computer5a6623> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/business/disabled-should-help-enumerator > > Thaindian News > Kolkata, Jan 28 (IANS) Disabled people should not hide their disabilities > and help the enumerators to prepare correct census data to enable the > government > to effectively implement the projects for them, an official said > Friday."According to 2001 census, 22 million people are estimated to be > differently abled, > while in West Bengal the figure accounts for 2 million, which is just 2.3 > per cent of the total population of the state. But while issuing > certificates > it was found that there were several anomalies in the data. So, a proper > census is needed immediately," said Assistant Disability Commissioner Ketaki > Ranjan > Adhikari."If a proper census could be prepared with the exact figure and > category, it will help the government to initiate effective projects for the > differently > abled persons according to their category," said Adhikari while addressing a > seminar 'Development, Rights and Disability' organised by the states' > Disability > Activists Forum (DAF) here at the Book Fair.The census will be conducted > between Feb 9 and 28 across the country and there will be a separate > question > in the questionnaire for the disabled.However, no certificates for proving > their disabilities are required while filling the questionnaire, he said."A > workshop will be organised during that first week of February to help the > differently abled persons and their guardians to interact with the > enumerators > freely while filling the census form," a DAF office-bearer said. > > > IF we not part of the solution then we are part of the problem > With Regards > Pradeep T.S > SyndicateBank > Information Technology Cell > Regional Office Bangalore > Mobile: 9845925188 > email: [email protected] > skype: pradeepsocialwork > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 07:49:35 +0530 > From: "Pranav Lal" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AI] e72 > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > This is not correct. The KNFB Reader does work with the Nokia E72. I speak > from experience. IN addition, see > http://www.knfbreader.com/phone_info.php > > Pranav > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 08:04:29 +0530 > From: "Dr. mittal" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability? > Message-ID: <20C56C6C71E14959B9D3B3D332795825@srmittalHP> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > I too strongly support to launch such a campaign as it will help all persons > with disabilities to be free from all hastles of carrying disability > certificate. > > Thanks and regards Prof. Mittal. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of amarnath de > Sent: 29 January 2011 20:29 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability? > > Dear Harish, > > I also support of inclusion of disability to UI card. > > Because, I think if I have an UI card I need not to carry handicapped > certificate or any kind of concession forms (including Railway concession > form) to claim concessions in future. > > Can accessindia launch a campaign in this direction? > > Regards. > > Yours sincerely, > Amarnath De. > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Harish Kotian" <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 11:14 AM > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability? > >> Dear Vashisht >> >> In my opinion, it will be those "for the disabled" who would be >> opposing inclusion of disability in the UI Card. For, the disabled >> themselves understand the hassel of carrying a bag full of ID cards >> for proof of disability. >> >> More importantly, this could have been the perfect answer for getting >> access to copyright material internationally and obtaining immunity >> from fair use clause. >> >> I think we must do everything possible to resalvage it if possible to >> do so. >> >> If one chooses not to disclose this information to the UI authority >> that should be fine, later, they should not cry for not having done >> so. Just because of a handful of persons, we cannot throw out a system >> which would help majority of persons. >> >> Harish Kotian. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "SC Vashishth" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 6:09 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability? >> >> >>> Rajesh, a large number of persons with disabilities do not want their >>> disability on their UID Cards. They want to be known by their name >>> and number and not by their disability. Argument - when you don't >>> write conditions such as Heart Problems, Knee Problems etc or >>> Castes/categories such as SC/ST, then why disability which is just a >>> condition that persons live with. >>> >>> This debate perhaps has led to UID dropping disability from the face >>> of the card. >>> >>> Another issue - UID's legal mandate doesn't require it to be a >>> replacing document for various other certificates such as a disability > certificate. >>> This also has a politics of maintaining relevance of certain >>> departments/ministries that have a stake in the disability. And they >>> do not want to let go their importance. Since, if every important >>> information comes on UID then they fear it might render them >>> redundant such as a PAN Card (Separate Ministry), Ration Card >>> (Separate Ministry), (Disability Certificate (Min. of Health) >>> etc...... >>> >>> >>> >>> On 28 January 2011 17:48, Asudani, Rajesh <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> No asif, it does not help, if UDAI does not cover disability. >>>> Sorry. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto: >>>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Mohammed Asif >>>> iqbal >>>> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 3:20 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability? >>>> >>>> Hi Amar, >>>> As you are aware; I am currently working with UIDAI. With mandate >>>> of enrolling Pwd. >>>> No, data on disability is not being collected. >>>> UID only collects data on name, date of birth, father's name/ >>>> mother's name/ guardian/ City address. And Email/ mobile no. is >>>> optional. >>>> Hope this helps. >>>> I will be coming to Bombay soon and hope to catch up with you and >>>> explain this in details. >>>> Mohammed Asif Iqbal >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Amar >>>> Jain >>>> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 1:35 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability? >>>> >>>> Dear All, >>>> We are aware that UIDAI will include disability in their database. I >>>> saw the form on eaadhaar.com as the form on UIDAI website was >>>> unreadable by Jaws, but it does not ask for disability related >>>> information. >>>> So would like to know if there is anybody who has got UID which >>>> includes their disability detail, and procedure which is to be >>>> followed? >>>> As per help desk soon UID will be allotted in Mumbai. >>>> Regards >>>> Amar Jain. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Amar Jain. >>>> Website: www.amarjain.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are >>>> confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or >>>> entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended >>>> recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or >>>> copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or >>>> attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this >>>> email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone and >>>> immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. >>>> The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the >>>> presence of viruses. The Reserve Bank of India accepts no liability >>>> for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Warm regards, >>> >>> Subhash Chandra Vashishth >>> Mobile: +91 (11) 9811125521 >>> Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. Consider >>> environment! >>> >> >> >> > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 08:42:10 +0530 > From: "Jean Parker" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AI] e72 > Message-ID: <A6BB4D491D51455E8C185CCDCC047E51@jean1ca8e1ee6b> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi: > > I use it every day and it works. Pranav is also using it with e72. If you > email knfb directly they will also tell you that it works with e72. > > Jean > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ashwani Jassal" <[email protected]> > To: "'Jean Parker'" <[email protected]>; > <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 11:37 PM > Subject: RE: [AI] e72 > > >> Madam I have checked with Mr. Ram Agarwal about the compatibility of e72 >> with KNFB reader and he gave me negative reply meaning there by knfb >> reader >> doesn't work with e72. >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 09:05:44 +0530 > From: Srinivasu Chakravarthula <[email protected]> > To: [email protected], [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability? > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I to agree. Including disability in UI would enable us to carry just one > card. > > On 1/30/11, Dr. mittal <[email protected]> wrote: >> I too strongly support to launch such a campaign as it will help all >> persons >> with disabilities to be free from all hastles of carrying disability >> certificate. >> >> Thanks and regards Prof. Mittal. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of amarnath de >> Sent: 29 January 2011 20:29 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability? >> >> Dear Harish, >> >> I also support of inclusion of disability to UI card. >> >> Because, I think if I have an UI card I need not to carry handicapped >> certificate or any kind of concession forms (including Railway concession >> form) to claim concessions in future. >> >> Can accessindia launch a campaign in this direction? >> >> Regards. >> >> Yours sincerely, >> Amarnath De. >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Harish Kotian" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 11:14 AM >> To: <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability? >> >>> Dear Vashisht >>> >>> In my opinion, it will be those "for the disabled" who would be >>> opposing inclusion of disability in the UI Card. For, the disabled >>> themselves understand the hassel of carrying a bag full of ID cards >>> for proof of disability. >>> >>> More importantly, this could have been the perfect answer for getting >>> access to copyright material internationally and obtaining immunity >>> from fair use clause. >>> >>> I think we must do everything possible to resalvage it if possible to >>> do so. >>> >>> If one chooses not to disclose this information to the UI authority >>> that should be fine, later, they should not cry for not having done >>> so. Just because of a handful of persons, we cannot throw out a system >>> which would help majority of persons. >>> >>> Harish Kotian. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "SC Vashishth" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 6:09 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability? >>> >>> >>>> Rajesh, a large number of persons with disabilities do not want their >>>> disability on their UID Cards. They want to be known by their name >>>> and number and not by their disability. Argument - when you don't >>>> write conditions such as Heart Problems, Knee Problems etc or >>>> Castes/categories such as SC/ST, then why disability which is just a >>>> condition that persons live with. >>>> >>>> This debate perhaps has led to UID dropping disability from the face >>>> of the card. >>>> >>>> Another issue - UID's legal mandate doesn't require it to be a >>>> replacing document for various other certificates such as a disability >> certificate. >>>> This also has a politics of maintaining relevance of certain >>>> departments/ministries that have a stake in the disability. And they >>>> do not want to let go their importance. Since, if every important >>>> information comes on UID then they fear it might render them >>>> redundant such as a PAN Card (Separate Ministry), Ration Card >>>> (Separate Ministry), (Disability Certificate (Min. of Health) >>>> etc...... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 28 January 2011 17:48, Asudani, Rajesh <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> No asif, it does not help, if UDAI does not cover disability. >>>>> Sorry. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto: >>>>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Mohammed Asif >>>>> iqbal >>>>> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 3:20 PM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability? >>>>> >>>>> Hi Amar, >>>>> As you are aware; I am currently working with UIDAI. With mandate >>>>> of enrolling Pwd. >>>>> No, data on disability is not being collected. >>>>> UID only collects data on name, date of birth, father's name/ >>>>> mother's name/ guardian/ City address. And Email/ mobile no. is >>>>> optional. >>>>> Hope this helps. >>>>> I will be coming to Bombay soon and hope to catch up with you and >>>>> explain this in details. >>>>> Mohammed Asif Iqbal >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Amar >>>>> Jain >>>>> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 1:35 PM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability? >>>>> >>>>> Dear All, >>>>> We are aware that UIDAI will include disability in their database. I >>>>> saw the form on eaadhaar.com as the form on UIDAI website was >>>>> unreadable by Jaws, but it does not ask for disability related >>>>> information. >>>>> So would like to know if there is anybody who has got UID which >>>>> includes their disability detail, and procedure which is to be >>>>> followed? >>>>> As per help desk soon UID will be allotted in Mumbai. >>>>> Regards >>>>> Amar Jain. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Amar Jain. >>>>> Website: www.amarjain.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are >>>>> confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or >>>>> entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended >>>>> recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or >>>>> copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or >>>>> attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this >>>>> email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone and >>>>> immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. >>>>> The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the >>>>> presence of viruses. The Reserve Bank of India accepts no liability >>>>> for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Warm regards, >>>> >>>> Subhash Chandra Vashishth >>>> Mobile: +91 (11) 9811125521 >>>> Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. Consider >>>> environment! >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > Best regards, > > Srinivasu Chakravarthula > Mobile: +91 990 081 0881 > Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://www.learnaccessibility.org > Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/VasuTweets > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 08:42:07 +0530 > From: "Sandeep Gautam" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AI] Taking Backup Of Various Folders In Outlook Express > Message-ID: <A51BF38009994CDCA5E8FB5795B72120@sandeepd339a4d> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Dr Yogesh, > Just to add something, > the process written is to select another folder to save new mails in your > OE's different folders (which yet to come). > To backup your already saved mails, > you need to follow all the process described below and when you click on > store folder button > the present path of your store folder is written there in a read only > edit field. > just select the complete path and paste it to somewhere else, like in a > notepad. > now read the entire path and follow in your computer. after reaching all > folders and subfolders, you will find some folders like: > inb ox.dbx > outbox.dbx > draft.dbx > etc. > you can copy these folders and paste somewhere else to save all your > existing mails of OE. > > Sandeep G > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "B. R. Nautial" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 6:05 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] Taking Backup Of Various Folders In Outlook Express > > >> you can change the locations of all the folders to keep them in a secure >> place in your pc. >> to use the option, go to the tools menu of your outlook express followed >> by option submenu. Use control Tab to move "maintenance Page" and click >> "Store Folder" button. now, give the desired location to your outlook >> express folders other than your hard disk and click on ok button. finally, >> >> close the application and reopen outlook express once again. now, all of >> your folders will be shifted in a new location. >> Please feel free to contact me in case of any problem. >> With Regards >> B. R. Nautial >> Mobile: +91-9915073368 >> Skype: brnautial >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dr. Yogesh Sharma" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Cc: <[email protected]>; "Voice Vision. " <[email protected]>; >> <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 2:12 PM >> Subject: [AI] Taking Backup Of Various Folders In Outlook Express >> >> >> Hello dear friends, Kindly oblige by illustrating as to how I can take >> back up of mails present in various folders in Outlook Express. I would >> highly appreciate Your earliest help on this matter. >> >> Warm regards. >> Yogesh. >> >> e mail: [email protected] >> >> Mobile: 09988293833. >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 10:33:17 +0530 > From: "Prashant Verma" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AI] Disabled should help enumerators to prepare correct > census > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > The sensitization of the enumerators is being done fairly well at least in > Delhi. Many disabled persons have been participating as role models and > trainers for conducting the one hour session on the question on disability > in the trainings that are happening all over Delhi. > > I have also conducted several such trainings. Now the need is to sensitize > the public at large so that they do not hide the disabilities and provide > correct information when enumerators go to their homes. > I believe a media campaign is scheduled just before the start of the census > and it will include such message. > Let us hope that we get a much realistic figure this time. > Regards, > Prashant > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Pradeep banakar" <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 7:43 AM > To: <[email protected]> > Cc: <[email protected]> > Subject: [AI] Disabled should help enumerators to prepare correct census > >> http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/business/disabled-should-help-enumerator >> >> Thaindian News >> Kolkata, Jan 28 (IANS) Disabled people should not hide their disabilities >> and help the enumerators to prepare correct census data to enable the >> government >> to effectively implement the projects for them, an official said >> Friday."According to 2001 census, 22 million people are estimated to be >> differently abled, >> while in West Bengal the figure accounts for 2 million, which is just 2.3 >> per cent of the total population of the state. But while issuing >> certificates >> it was found that there were several anomalies in the data. So, a proper >> census is needed immediately," said Assistant Disability Commissioner >> Ketaki Ranjan >> Adhikari."If a proper census could be prepared with the exact figure and >> category, it will help the government to initiate effective projects for >> the differently >> abled persons according to their category," said Adhikari while addressing >> >> a seminar 'Development, Rights and Disability' organised by the states' >> Disability >> Activists Forum (DAF) here at the Book Fair.The census will be conducted >> between Feb 9 and 28 across the country and there will be a separate >> question >> in the questionnaire for the disabled.However, no certificates for proving >> >> their disabilities are required while filling the questionnaire, he >> said."A >> workshop will be organised during that first week of February to help the >> differently abled persons and their guardians to interact with the >> enumerators >> freely while filling the census form," a DAF office-bearer said. >> >> >> IF we not part of the solution then we are part of the problem >> With Regards >> Pradeep T.S >> SyndicateBank >> Information Technology Cell >> Regional Office Bangalore >> Mobile: 9845925188 >> email: [email protected] >> skype: pradeepsocialwork >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 12:09:44 +0530 > From: "Harish Kotian" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: [AI] Moderator: Re: Computer terms. > Message-ID: <5013957370B44D9D8852DDC01207BD46@harish> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > Hello > Please don't put such huge content into a mail. You could have easily put > the content into file, place it in sendspace or some service like that and > give its link here. > > Please do consider that not everyone can take in such huge mail. > Harish Kotian > Moderator. > > > > > > End of AccessIndia Digest, Vol 56, Issue 104 > ******************************************** >
