Hello Prateek sir,
even if we do not mention our disability in our resume when we apply for a
job, it is not going to be hidden when we appear for an interview. Moreover
the persons with other health problems which you mentioned have little or no
special needs while we as differently able persons do have special needs to
overcome our disability/limitations.
So i think the employer should be aware of our disability and limitations
and the ways and means we use to overcome them.
The employers are concerned with the output from us and if they find that
the adaptive inputs are less than our output why should they reject us just
because we are the persons with special needs!
----- Original Message -----
From: "prateek aggarwal" <[email protected]>
To: "accessindia" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Should you reveal disability during the job search?
hi Folks,
In my view, when you apply for a job, your motto is not to test how
aware the employer is. You want job, and the kind of lack of awareness
we have in India, there are very few employers who would call you for
interview after seeing disability mentioned on your CV.
Moreover, I wonder why do we need to mention disability on CV? I find
no reason at all until I’m able to perform equally with my other
sighted colleagues.
Many of the sighted folks have health problems like heart issues,
diabetes etc, and like its not necessary for them to reveal their
health problems on CV, it should be same in disability too.
The purpose of CV is to answer “how able you are”, rather “how disable you
are”.
So in my humble advise, mention your skillset on your resume, not
disability. its just a physical difference, which does not matter at
all till you are able enough to perform the job you are appearing for.
The road ahead from submitting resume is already tuff, I find it
unwise to make it tuffer by yourself by committing unnecessary
mistakes.
Regards,
Prateek agarwal.
Director,
Daedal technovations pvt. Ltd.
www.daedaltechnovations.com
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---------- Original message ----------
From: Srinivasu Chakravarthula <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 07:11:10 +0530
Subject: Re: [AI] Should you reveal disability during the job search?
Hi all,
Please don't mistake me but I see no reason for mentioning disability.
CV should explain the skill set and qualifications. Why would any
employer feel
Ee are hiding facts.
Srinivasu
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To: [email protected]
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 03:38:38 +0530
Subject: Re: [AI] Hi
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From: "Sandeep Gautam" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 05:53:37 +0530
Subject: Re: [AI] Should you reveal disability during the job search?
HI friends,
by not disclosing disability in our CV, can influence potential employer
both way..
on one hand, employer can assume that the person is hiding the facts.
Although, the CV holder can either convince interviewer that why he did not
disclose the disability in CV and can make him understood what disables can
do with assistive technology.
on the contrary, the interview can start with negative and suspicious
atmosphere.
I think it is better to give some idea to potential employer about our
disability before any interview.
one way, we can do, we dont reveal disability in our CV but we can try to
contact him via telephone or email simultaneously and can have an informal
chat about our disability.
Sandeep G
----- Original Message -----
From: "rahul cherian" <
[email protected]>
To: <
[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Should you reveal disability during the job search?
My take is a little different. I believe that full disclosure is critical
if
you want to advance to senior positions in the workplace. When preparing a
CV I think that we should not apologetic about our disabilities and
therefore we should not add a column stating that we have a disability,
but
rather couch the wording in a different way and give clues as to our
disability. For example, you can think of adding for example, "Can work
with
most assistive technology including NVDA and JAWS" or "Member of National
Association of the Blind". So when meeting the employer for the interview
he
already has some idea that you have a disability. If the employer taking
the
interview finds out about your disability only at the interview, it may
come
as a shock and reduce your chances.
I think it is also important at the interview to demonstrate what you can
do
by giving a demo of what you can do on your laptop. Be upfront and say
something at the beginning of your interview to put the employer at ease,
something like "I know that you are surprised to find a blind person
coming
for an interview, but I assure you that I am just as capable as anyone
else
when I am behind a computer". A smile from you here will be useful.
As a person with physical disability who walks with crutches I have found
that a combination of ability and confidence can overcome any prejudices
that employers may have.
Rahul Cherian
Inclusive Planet
On 17 May 2011 10:23, Amar Jain <
[email protected]>
wrote:
My point is that if the employer sees your CV, and finds suitable
qualifications, though if not remarkable achievements, and knowing
that if he calls you, then he is open towards understanding about
disability or things like assistive technoligies. Presuming employer's
awareness at the initial stage is unlikely in 99% cases, unless you
deal with bigshots.
I would not prefer to convince people who are dam negative, because
though after interview I might get the job due to the touch which it
leaves on people's brain after seeing such commendable things like
assistive technologies, but then at every step I'll need to do an
extra effort of making them understand that yes, I can do this or
that.
I do not fear from taking challenges, but I would not want to take
such challenges in areas like job where I need to spend my whole life,
or few years, because coming over these challenges gets you nothing
out of it, only the thing which you get is that the work is done by
you. Whereas if the employer is of understanding nature, then after
looking at your working style, he will appoint you, and not only that,
he will let you do all things which you are capable of doing. In very
few cases, you'll need to convince such an employer, and such cases
would be so that where an ordinary person would not presume that a
blind can do this thing. For example, using touch screen phone with
screen reading technology or understanding images using tactle. Might
not be a sound example, but at least that makes my point clear.
If I may give my own example, then when I interned in Jan this year, I
was well accepted by people of the office, but I was not given good
amount of work despite prooving myself in all works which they gave
me. Whereas, the place where I am currently interning, I am getting
every day some or other thing, and I am making my brain strong.
If I would have continued in my previous company, then my progress
would have been slower then what I am doing now.
Another example, if you go to branch manager for banking facilities,
and if he just because of the banking circulars give you all the
facilities and if at later date some facility come, he might deny or
ask you for another circular. But if your manager is sensible and
understanding person, then if he understands at the initial stage
itself about various things related to disability, then at later stage
you will not need to convince him that you can use this facility. The
only thing which he will check is that there should not be something
which denies such new facility to disabled.
Come back for more clerifications.
On 5/16/11, Adina Galani <
[email protected]>
wrote:
> One just needs to make a specification in the CV.> At least, out of
> curiosity, I think the interview will take place. I am personally for
> revealing it, rather than facing the confused attitude, on spot.
> Adina
>> On May 16, 2011, at 18:23, "Vamshi. G" <
[email protected]>
wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Amar,
>>>
>>> What if the employer doesn't have awareness about assistive
>>> technology
>>> till the interview? And the candidate sensitises him on the same and
>>> manages to convince him that visually challenged people can work in
>>> his office. Do you want to miss such an interview?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/16/11, Amar Jain <
[email protected]>
wrote:
>>>> If I am asked, then I would recommend revealing disability on CV
>>>> itself, because even after knowing about your disability if the
>>>> employer is willing to interview you, then I consider him as the
>>>> person having some positiveness. Otherwise it is said na "let your
>>>> head hit the walls, it is your head which is going to get hurted and
>>>> not the wall"!
>>>>
>>>> On 5/16/11, Pankaj Kwatra <
[email protected]>
wrote:
>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>
>>>>> Truth is my word and does disability needs any declaration, if yes
than
>>>>> it should be at first instance rather then later.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Pankaj Kwatra
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From:
[email protected]
>>>>> [mailto:
[email protected]]
On Behalf Of
Srinivasu
>>>>> Chakravarthula
>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 11:53 AM
>>>>> To:
[email protected]
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Should you reveal disability during the job
>>>>> search?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi George,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think, it's a tough decision to make whether to reveal disability
on
>>>>> CV or
>>>>> not and I think, one needs to make the judgement based on the
>>>>> company
>>>>> and
>>>>> the level of awareness that company has. Although, it's
>>>>> unfortunate,
>>>>> but
>>>>> at
>>>>> times, when a employer sees disability on CV and if he / she is not
>>>>> sensitized towards disability, then chance are more for rejection
>>>>> and
>>>>> he
>>>>> /
>>>>> she may not even inform the reason for rejection.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> -Srinivasu
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:46 AM, George Abraham
>>>>> <
[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The question I would raise is "should your cv reveal disability?"
>>>>>> In
>>>>> most
>>>>>> cases the disability would be evident during the interview or
written
>>>>> exam
>>>>>> stage. But I certainly do believe that the employer must be made
aware
>>>>> of
>>>>>> the disability before he signs on the dotted line.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <
>>>>>>
[email protected]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To: <
[email protected]>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 10:33 AM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Should you reveal disability during the job
search?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, if you require reasonable accommodation, or rather enabling
>>>>>>> environment, disability has to be revealed, there is no choice, I
>>>>> believe...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From:
[email protected]
[mailto:
>>>>>>>
[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Pranav Lal
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 6:05 AM
>>>>>>> To:
[email protected]
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Should you reveal disability during the job
search?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Srinivasu,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We have had this discussion several times before though I would
>>>>>>> be
>>>>> curious
>>>>>>> to know what, if anything Indian law says on this matter. The
>>>>> article
>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>> states:
>>>>>>> "As you mention, the ADA prohibits hiring managers from asking
>>>>>>> job
>>>>>>> candidates any medical questions, and the consensus among legal
>>>>> experts in
>>>>>>> this field is that you're under no obligation to bring up the
subject
>>>>> in
>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>> interview, unless you have reason to believe it could affect your
>>>>> ability
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> do your job.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And there's the rub. Since you managed to work around your
condition
>>>>> in
>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>> last job, do you think you could do the same in a new position?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or do you have reason to believe it will be harder this time
>>>>>>> around
>>>>> (for
>>>>>>> example, if the illness has gotten more severe, or the episodes
more
>>>>>>> frequent)?"
>>>>>>> PL] In my experience, it is not so much whether you believe that
your
>>>>>>> disability will impact your job. It is all about the employer's
>>>>>>> perception.
>>>>>>> I see no easy answer to that problem. <chuckle You know, people
>>>>>>> say
>>>>> that
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> are sized in the first 3 minutes. So, is the problem as simple as
>>>>> doing
>>>>>>> something to shatter that perception in the first 3 minutes?
>>>>>>> <grin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pranav
>>>>>>>
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