Certainly my English would improve if keep reading these posts. This post going to be long as boss is not there in the office.
Anyway, friend Srinivasu I sincerely respect your action oriented arguments. If you like, I can share at least 3 young VI individuals who are desperately looking for employment. TO start with only 1 of them looks to me employable with pay. I completely Agree with Kanchan mam’s argument. One being challenged must have extra to offer. I was forced to start working with out any pay when other college peers partied & had wonderful teenage life. After 4 or 5 months of hard work and learning I had started contributing to that small firm and payment started of Rs. 1500. This is not long back only in Jan 2005. I believe that has paid me off. I finished off as the 2nd highest superior in the same firm in 2009 and today I am working with Reliance ADA group at a respectable position and... But journey hasn’t been that glorious. I faced each problem that has been discussed here. Have cried and every moment made my self competitive, better than able bodied peers around me. If I was not blind I would have been placed on the very first day from my B school campus, but was lucky to at least get placed on the 10th day. So lucky were not my other VI friends who were better than me. So Mantra is keep trying and importantly raise the bar in interpersonal skills, professional knowledge and give results and just grab any opportunity comes your way, . One of these guys who are looking job for last 8 odd months has stubborn salary demand and remains static in his English skills, knowledge etc. and he says he is trying. 8 months in my opinion is a good enough time to show some improvement. Problem is “chalta hain or chal jayega” attitude. Anyway, I take this opportunity to acknowledge XRCVC & Enable India’s efforts to not just give employment to Vis, but to make them employable which In my opinion the very bottom line problem, very very challenging. On 12/7/11, Pamnani <[email protected]> wrote: > thanks Rajesh very well put. The difference from my time and now is that in > the old days we got no money for working with a law office but now they pay > something even though it may be peanuts and now there is a chance for VI to > practise commercial law and sit in office and work on the computer thus > relying less but not eliminating the need for a sighted assistant. The > problem for a VI is how does he get in and then prove his worth as a junior. > > Once you get in and prove some worth then you get paid well these days. In > my time even as Advocate assistant or Solicitor Assistant you could not live > on the salary received therefore there was no choice but to start your own > practise or go to a job. Now the salaries are good without the headache of > infrastructure costs. > > Yes knowledge is required but you got to first convince at an interview and > then show your skills at the computer. Litigation is tough and tougher for a > VI and definitely not remunerative till you have some years of standing. > The pressures are more now and the speed of output has increased. therefore > the time to train a VI is something that puts people off. > > Unfortunately those who want to take up this profession first finish their > studies and then ask questions. They have lost 5 years in the bargain. Also > when I tell them that they have to know computers well, I get a reluctance > and resistance to detailed learning. We have to overcome our disability so > that it only remains an impairment. > Kanchan Pamnani > Advocate & Solicitor > 9, Suleman Chambers, > Battery Street, Colaba, > Mumbai - 400 039. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 10:28 AM > Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO > firms > > >> Well, I think a VI can practice law only if: >> 1. she/he can afford a sighted assistant, >> 2. Has good computer knowledge >> 3. Knows the subject at a level which can be called above average, >> 4. is from economically well-off family to enable her/him to be without >> income for a considerable time, >> Otherwise not. >> These are the conjunctive requirements and not disjunctive. >> >> This is the harsh reality which should be explained to any prospective >> lawyers. >> I could not practice despite fulfilling clearly the requirement No. 3, as >> I did not fulfill requirements 1 and 4. Requirement 2 was inapplicable in >> our days.... >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pamnani >> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 7:47 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO >> firms >> >> I agree that jobs are very difficult for the visually challenged in the >> corporate sector but I do think being self employed is also very tough. >> I have been getting emails and calls from youngsters who want to join law >> and I really dont know what to do.How to explain to people how tough it is >> to survive and how to get them an entry into the profession? >> Most of the visually challenged prospective lawyers have : >> a. finished law degree without working while they study so they have no >> experience while their peers have worked atleast during 4 vacations. >> Its so tough to get an internship and if you dont get one you dont have >> experience after college so no employer wants you. its really a catch 22 >> situation. >> b. not adequate knowledge of screen readers-most people who call me say >> they >> know computers but most of the time they know very little. They cant type >> fast nor is their research skill honed nor do they know how to deal with >> track changes. Again if the visually challenged lawyer would know these >> skills then he could be marketed and someone would give him a >> chance.Knowledge of computers more than your sighted peers would be a >> marked >> advantage and may to some extent mitigate the effect of the impairment. >> >> c. lack of knowledge of braille- >> d. No superior knowledge of the subject. >> e. no sighted help to read papers >> I agree that I should not be compared with my able bodied peers but how >> does >> someone convince a professional to allow someone to sit in his office? How >> does a client get convinced enough to trust you with his matter? >> Forget about the law and give me the practical solutions. >> >> Kanchan Pamnani >> Advocate & Solicitor >> 9, Suleman Chambers, >> Battery Street, Colaba, >> Mumbai - 400 039. >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 5:55 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO >> firms >> >> >>> Could not agree more!!! >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jairam >>> Balasubramanian >>> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 4:49 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO >>> firms >>> >>> At Srinivasu >>> >>> If we are talking about individual company names, one company named >>> Lazer soft in Chennai, claimed to have been equal opportunity company >>> and also that most of its employees were challenged. >>> The company was specialising in development of softwares for banking >>> space, and when I went in for interview, not a single visually >>> challenged person was recruited there. >>> After my qualification as CA in 2006, my experiences at the campus >>> recruitments in ICAI with companies like Goldman Sacks, BPCL, Wipro, >>> Infosys, L&T, etc have been clearly an evidence of the reluctance of >>> the HR managers to recruit visually challenged candidates. >>> >>> Do we mean to say that any VI person who have'nt been able to land up >>> into a job into the corporate world, lacks the requisite skills, its >>> sheer bull shit. >>> Only a handfull of us, have been able to land up into good jobs, and >>> based on that, we can't conclude that no-one else possesses the >>> requisite skills. And also that , we better know how we landed up into >>> those jobs. >>> And about the skill sets, hiring a candidate from IIM or such premier >>> institutes does not require any great boasting up of the companies of >>> having been an inclusive organisation, as it constitutes only a meagre >>> percentage, and also that they would anyways get placed due to their >>> knowledge and networking. >>> Barring a few on this list itself, I don't think there are many of us >>> who are highly Tech savy or people who have total expertees in their >>> respective domains. >>> For that matter, any fresher or even experienced persons may >>> necessarily not be having indepth understanding of the industry as a >>> whole. >>> If our education systems are non-inclusive, then its not fair to blame >>> the individual for not possessing good linguistic skills, or the so >>> called soft skills, most of the schools being regional in nature, even >>> in relatively bigger cities. >>> Let us not generalise our ideas on the basis of a very small sample, >>> where the ground reality is completely different. >>> May be that, the so called HR managers and the top management, >>> comprising of the best brains from B-schools, lack the skill sets in >>> valuation, which they think they are good at. >>> Its all about finding value, and if someone is not able to find any >>> value in something, then its his/her incompetence as well as the >>> product itself. >>> If I have been created differently, then why I should be equated with >>> my non-peers and rated on the same scale. 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