Thanx
Roheit, I am downloading.

On 12/9/11, Rohiet A. Patil <[email protected]> wrote:
> aray no problem bhai!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sheik mohammedali" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 10:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] audio device not working
>
>
> would you like to disable your dropbox public  links for awhile? smiles
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rohiet A. Patil" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 7:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] audio device not working
>
>
> If any one wants SP3 installer then I can upload it on dropbox and share the
> link to the list. It's a 316 MB file. Should I?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Umesha Economics" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 8:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] audio device not working
>
>
> Hi friends,
> sorry for a very long delay in replying. since we had a national conference
> on agricultural marketing organized by our department, I was busy with it
> and could not able to communicate with the list.
> I had a dilemma of changing the subject line of the message but finally left
> it unaltered.
> first of all, thanks to all the persons who helped me with their ideas and
> experiences. now my laptop is working fine. some of them even guided me
> through phone. I am grateful to all of them as I would be in a very
> difficult situation otherwise. additionally I thank the moderators for
> providing such beautiful platform for mutually solving real problems. I know
> that thanks messages should be avoided in the list but I could not hold my
> feelings. but I have some info to share with the list, out of my laptop
> experience and hence wrote this message. and it follows:
> out of a few suppliers in the market, dell seems to be the best in terms of
> providing information to customers and post purchase service. but if one is
> particular about running winXP, one should not go to dell, especially if he
> wants to use Wifi. we do not get drivers for the components for which dell
> itself is the manufacturer such as Bluetooth and wifi. as I got from the
> technical team of dell, only 2 models in vostro series are compatible with
> XP. and both of them are out of market. dell only provides service to those
> purchased earlier.
> sony seems to be expensive and not customer friendly. but I have little
> experience. lenovo is one which provides drivers for win XP but not a good
> service. I bought ideapad Z570 597654 for Rs. 41370 at Bangalore. this
> model's configuration seems to be economically good. but its wifi device
> which is an atheros product, is not good and causes DPC latency problem with
> the processor. as a result very often audio get interrupted and for jaws
> users its really annoyance. this occurs if following conditions prevail:
> the wifi driver is installed
> wifi device is not disabled in device manager
> wifi switch is turned off
>
> if driver is not installed or it is disabled, latency does not happen. if we
> switch on wifi, latency reduces to nearly half and audio problem is not
> likely to happen.
> as per prateek agarwal's advice, I got another driver which is far better
> than one given in lenovo site though it is not perfect. it creates moderate
> latency when switched on but no latency when switched off. I checked it in
> our university wifi and its working fine with the network. so whenever I do
> not use wifi, I switch it off. even if switched on, I have not faced audio
> problem so far.
> but since it is not a complete solution, I have written to lenovo. they said
> that some other (unknown) team will look after the matter and get back to me
> (don't know when?).
> shona man and salman did not reply whether they have same problem or not.
> shona man, its for your info, we cannot uninstall bios update nor revert it
> with system restore. restore only looks after system files in the hard disk.
> someone in the thread asked for SP3 download link. but the link I provided
> in my previous message is wrong and the file I downloaded did not install.
> we need a different file and ask sheik mohammedali for more details.
>
> Umesha
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "prateek aggarwal" <[email protected]>
> To: "accessindia" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 11:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] audio device not working
>
>
> Dear umesha,
> Right, so the root cause for the issue has been pinpointed.
> Believe it or not,  people using atheros wi fi adapters are some of
> the most frequent complainants of such types of cases.
> Athero is cheaper than some of its major competitors, hence many
> companies are preferring their hardware in their machines.
>
> The wiggly red lines that you are seeing  are definetly because of the
> high latency that its  experiencing.
> Technically, that means that the wi fi adapter is taking more
> resources than it should actually take.
> in regards of solutions,
> there does  not seem a complete rectification of this problem, however
> driver update can  be of some help.
> Try updating the drivers for your athero’s wi fi device  and see if it
> makes a difference.
> As per  my recent observation,   athero has not been  updating their
> drivers for windows xp and most of their latest drivers claims to work
> well with vista or windows 7.
> However, its worth keeping yours to the latest possible, of course the
> one that’s compatible with your operating system.
>
> If that doesn’t work, try reaching to lenovo technical support  and
> telling them the problem.
> You basically have to inquire if its possible to change the hardware
> under your sales term.
> It has been seen that these companies have made their legal policies
> smart enough to save themselves from any possible hazard. Especially
> in the case  of devices and their compatibility with various operating
> system.
> Someone on the thread has said that a dos based machine  means that
> its compatible with any operating system, but I remind of a judgement
> given in united states sometime back where it was said that a dos
> based machine means that the company has not particularly tested the
> machine with different operating systems, hence it would not be
> responsible for any hardware compatibility issues.
> Legally, whole claim for the compatibility is being smartly averted to
> the device manufacturers.
>
> Though you’ve  been condemning to use windows7,  but I would still
> like to advice  that  please give it a try at least.
> Not just to get acquainted with it, but more importantly to find out
> the performance of your audio and wi fi devices with that and check if
> a driver update helps there instead.
> For your information,  windows 7 has an  xp mode, which pretty much
> brings  your old days back.
> Also, there are other  fantastic programs  like classic shell etc
> which restores your xp experience to quite an extent.
>
> Like it or not, not all the latest devices have enough support
> available  for windows xp now, and the reason  behind  this is
> Microsoft policies where they have deliberately promoted vista and
> windows7 over xp from past few years.
> It has been already announced  that the support for windows xp would
> no longer be available after 2014, so I personally find this a wise
> decision to upgrade the OS, specially if its causing issues to make
> compatibility with latest hardware devices.
> Oh and some of you guys   have written to me off the list to ask my
> contact number.
> Those would like to get in touch with me through phone would like to note,
> its:
> +91-9928341197.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Regards,
> Prateek agarwal.
> Managing Director,
> Daedal technovations pvt. Ltd.
> www.daedaltechnovations.com
>
> website:
> www.prateekagarwal.webs.com
> |
> www.prateekagarwal.tk
>
>
> On 11/24/11, Umesha S E <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Dear Salman and others,
>> Sorry for the delay. Yesterday I was completely involved in testing
>> process. So could not reply.  I could find the source of the problem.
>> Now we have to work out for the permanent solution. Following is the
>> result. But I din’t understand your previous message. 2 days ago, you
>> said that you bought your laptop only 3 days earlier. But in the last
>> message you said that you restored your machine to November 15th. How
>> is it possible? Is your system clock not correct?
>>
>> To prateek aggarwal,
>> Yes sir. It is due to Audio latency.  I downloaded DPC Latency Checker
>> from the following link:
>> http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml
>> When I first ran it on the system, I got all the red bars on the graph
>> even while there is no sound problem. The latency was varying for
>> every 2-3 seconds from about 2500 micro seconds to 12500 or 13500
>> micro seconds. While the sound problem was present, the bars touched
>> the sealing of the chart. The latency was recorded in the range of
>> 150000 to 300000 micro seconds. Some times it even went up to 700000
>> micro seconds. Surprisingly, even when I disabled my realtek
>> soundcard, I got the red bars of same height. Next I suspected network
>> cards. The moment I disabled my wifi card, it dropped to very low in
>> the green region (125 micro seconds). If I re-enable the wifi card,
>> the next second again I got the same red bars. One more thing I like
>> to tell you, if I enable wifi device and turn on it using the switch
>> provided on the laptop, it substantially drops but not to green
>> region. Then I get alternating 2-3 yellow bars (about 1200 micro
>> seconds) and 1 or 2 red bars (about 6300 micro seconds). The earlier
>> observations are when wifi is enabled but switch is off. I also ran my
>> computer for long time to find whether the problem appears after
>> disabling wifi and it ran without trouble for hours. So it is clear
>> that my atheros Wi-Fi card is causing it. Now please tell me sir, what
>> I have to do next for solving that wifi device problem. If you need, I
>> will provide the screen shots of the graphs obtained using DPC latency
>> checker.
>> Salman, as you know this problem does not occur continuously but it
>> comes and goes for some minutes. Hence I was testing it by running my
>> system for long time. So I could not reply in time. I did not install
>> SP3. But if you need it, its download page is
>> http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/confirmation.aspx?id=1260
>> The following links may also be of some use.
>> http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=24
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936929
>>
>> To shona man,
>> Out of curiosity, I want to know. Can we uninstall BIOS with system
>> restore?
>> To Kiran Baug,
>> Do we have difference between Indian and US sites in terms of
>> downloads available for a model?
>>
>> Umesha
>>
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