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After the great success of 2008 and 2010, now in its 3rd series, BarrierBreak Technologies is organizing Techshare India 2012 in New Delhi on the 6th & 7th February 2012. Its time to do something exceptional and inimitable. It is time to take the conversation beyond web accessibility and assistive technology to include entertainment and gaming for persons with disabilities. Techshare has always proved itself in the past and has kept the expectation of its exhibitor and visitor. 10% discount for ATIA Members Highlights of Techshare India 2010 * 50 Plus Speakers * 6 accessibility workshops * 2000 visitors including disabled, caretakers, and the aged* 40 Exhibition stalls displaying assistive aids and services pan disabilityTechshare India 2012 will include an exhibition of international work, products and research from the digital assistive technology industry. Why Visit at Techshare India 2012? * Opportunity to meet and influence professionals within different areas of work including employment, education, government, or technology. * Showcase your products and explore the Indian market. Date & Venue: 6th - 7th February 2012, New Delhi, India Registration Rates Registration India International Corporate / Government INR 5500 USD 125 NGO / Individual INR 2500 USD 65 Student INR 1750 USD 50 Rate is inclusive of 10.3% Service Tax. <http://techshare.barrierbreak.com/conf2012.php> Book Now! Group Discount For Group Discounts, write to us at techshare(at)barrierbreak[dot]com. * 10% for a group of 5 or more * 15% for a group of 10 or more Some of the Speakers at Techshare India 2012: * Reading in a digital age By RNIB * Can accessible gaming be fun? By Infosys * Simple talking computing for blind seniors ??? A Real Life Journey By Cognizant * Integrating web services into assistive technology By Dolphin Some of our exhibitors for Techshare India 2012: * CodeFactory * Dolphin Computer Access * Microsoft * Optelec B.V. * Many More.... BarrierBreak Technologies A subsidiary of Net Systems Informatics (India) Private Limited 102, Highway Commercial Complex, I B Patel Road, Goregaon (East), Mumbai - 400 063. Telephone 91-22-26860485/6 Email <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]Website <http://techshare.barrierbreak.com> http://techshare.barrierbreak.com-- -- M.Phil scholar at JNU ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:10:22 +0530 From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AI] Tailoring by visually challenged Message-ID: <bea8645838d62348ae206f49353e047d08175b6...@rbiexch01.rbi1.rbi.org.in> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Does Mitrajyothi run any short term course on tailoring or so? -----Original Message-----From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of madhu singhalSent: Monday, December 12, 2011 10:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AI] Tailoring by visually challenged Dear Rajesh, Of course, visually impaired people can do tailoring. I feel he needs confidence and if someone can patiently spend time with him and help wherever he is getting stuck. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 11:44 AM Subject: [AI] Tailoring by visually challengedFriends We at BGFI Resource centre for the blind at Nagpur have a friend who was a tailor while sighted. He has gone blind about five years ago and has left his job of tailoring. I know the blind can effectively do the sewing and other tailoring jobs. Now the challenge is to train him do them without sight and develop his confidence... He is totally blind. Please advice where can it be done as a short term course? I was just wondering whether anybody locally conversant with niceties of tailoring could also teach him deal with the challenge successfully? 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Thanks and regards, ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:55:41 +0530 From: Ajay Minocha <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AI] Of disclosing 'disability' before marriage Message-ID: <ca+hy0dkjf+9mtonh1vm8oxehcsxet+nsobzafexz3wuaxb1...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Hi shadab bhai your hunger for praises can be fulfilled because I prais a ton times the aproach that you have towards your life I am totally agree with Rohiet I know that I am quite young for all these things but from my parent's way of talking to me I can clearly make an impression about what they think for my maragein adition to the of my parents thoughts to marrie a so called normal girl" in their openion I don't think so" I will also have to convince my elder siblings because I am youngest in my family but now a days I don't think that much about this matter because My studies and carrior are the 1st prayority for me because I think this marriage and all that stuff can only be successful if a person has a nice source of earning that's the reality of our so called practicle life no relationship can sustain for long without money I want to say sorry if I have herted somebody's feelings regards On 12/13/11, Subramani L <[email protected]> wrote:Not only can we come around the fire, but also bend down to hold the bride's big toe while holding her hand with one of our own and direct her leg towards a solid granite grinder as custom would demand. Dont ask me how. I know it is possible. Subbu On 12/13/11, syed imran <[email protected]> wrote:Just a curious question - being a visually impaired, how does one round the fire for seven times? No offense Thanks On 12/13/11, akhilesh <[email protected]> wrote:Hello, I'm quoting the mail below and later I will answer and clarify the point that I made in my mail. It was from Mr. Bhavani shankar in reply of my mail. ========== how do a person can perform love marrige. one should fall in love first. it desires a big fortune! if you have done so, you are luckey enough. smiles! ========== Bhavani ji, A love marriage can not be performed without falling in love. I don't know about your location and locality so I would not comment on the possibilities of falling in love with someone, but in our city of Delhi the possibilities and opportunities of falling in love with someone are quite high. I think that I don't agree with you when you say that it is a matter of fortune . I don't want to be fortunet in this field as of now, but yeah in future, yeah I would want to be, and I will be. With regards, Akhilesh Kumar Dahiya, Advocate. Mobile: +91 9210616426 New Delhi. On 12/12/11, Rohiet A. Patil <[email protected]> wrote:Bhavani jee, I want to draw your attention to a very strange but true issue. As you say, one should keep sighted partner as a last option, but most of the time our parents keep them on a top priority because of many many misunderstandings. In this case, it's very hard to convince them. My point is, can we say that they are responsible for any future mishaps if happens unfortunetly? I have a strong opinian that in many cases, they areresponsible for spoiling our life completely. Because they are having aegoistic aproach that "humay sub samazta hai. hum tumhara nuksan nahi karnay jaa rahay hai." Or something like this. ----- Original Message ----- From: "BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 7:31 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Of disclosing 'disability' before marriage you are absolutely right! i did not say that one should not go for sighted partner, but, preferably don't go for sighted partner. keep it as the last option. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rohiet A. Patil" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Of disclosing 'disability' before marriage But I think unfortunetly, it's a reality. Accept or not, But according to my view, it's very easy to cheet a VI person.Further, I also think that most of the time, the sighted partner thinksthat"chalo isko cheet karna hamaray liye bohot hi aasan mamla hai. hum insay shadi karangay aur hum puranay relation me atakay rahay to isko kya patachalega?". ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr Jalaja" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Of disclosing 'disability' before marriageI can't agree with you fully. Cheating happens even if both are sighted.Itis a matter of mutual trust in relations, and if the trust is not therewe can't lead a normal married life. Regards----Jalaja ----- Original Message ----- From: "BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 7:41 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Of disclosing 'disability' before marriagein most of the cases a blind partner have been cheated by their sightedpartners. whether is male or female. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rohiet A. Patil" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 11:03 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Of disclosing 'disability' before marriageI think what you say regarding mobility and eye contact, is equally truein the contest of VI women also. Don't you think so? ----- Original Message ----- From: "ekinath ekinath" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Cc: "B. R. Nautial" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 10:55 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Of disclosing 'disability' before marriage I am struck!Let me start with congratulating Shadab, lucky indeed both the spouses.Can?t believe in a co-incidence of this topic just propping up like that. Just before opening my mail I was going through these thoughts. Well, I had couple of playful and couple of serous relations, but guys its time I think that I hang my heart to hooks. I am convinced that however of a hero you are. If u r blind and marrying a sighted girl, you wont be able to give her normal yes normal life. I think, normal mobility and eye contacts really matter and unfortunately we are helpless here. No technology, no training can compensate. Well, I assume that probably, life for VI woman would be better in relationships as girls don?t pick up their partners, and again normally the lead is usually a male in terms of driving, outing etc. I painfully imagine fathering an active kid which whom I can?t run, play or even show him the way. Therefore, think best thing is to seek pleasure in others happiness by doing little good that u can. But you got to go on, so i am. Hopes of substituting love with love from my friends, family and kith kins. Note: My thoughts are just my personal views involving emotions. Apologise if I have invoked negative feelings in someone. On 12/10/11, Anirban Mukherjee <[email protected]> wrote:Dear Shadab bhai, you have raised an issue which is a thing of my present life. i got a job at the age of 21 years and it was a farely good job and of a farely good salary in spite of my visual disability. i am visually disabled from my birth, in my college days, i met a girl who wasjunior to me by 1 year. she was interested in me but could not totally go for the relationship due to uncertainty of our future. but 3 monthsafter my getting the job, she herself proposed me. we were deeply engaged. many a night i spent with her by talking over phone. it's me who inspired her to aspire for a job. she got one 2 years later. but when talks of her marriage began in her family, she disclosed our affair. but as soon as she was opposed emotionally and in all other ways, she started fumbling and a month after the disclosure, she called it quits with me. the reason she sighted was my visual disability. (my fingers stumbling as i type) she left me emotionally bancrupt. now, a few months later my parents are searching a bride for me but i've been refused from all quartersas soon as my disability was intimated, in spite of that i believe the disability should be clearly disclosed. anyway, now the attitude of myparents is to settle for whosoever agrees to accept me disregarding all or most of my aspirations. but still i sincerely believe that there is always a light at the end of the tunnel. hope the light of my life would emerge from one such end of the tunnel. otherwise, the quest for freedom and light would continue in all possible ways. hope you will have a splendid married life. sorry for a longish mail. with warm regards, Anirban Mukherjee, mobile: 09433305139 On 12/10/11, B. R. Nautial <[email protected]> wrote:oh! this is the part of life, no need to disappoint. Since beginning,theladies are struggling for their rights and equality not only in Indiabut also in all the developed nations too and it can't be change in one night.This is equally true that the situation is more critical for the blindwomen. With Regards B. R. Nautial - Original Message ----- From: "Sushmeetha" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Of disclosing 'disability' before marriageIts easy for a guy to disclose & still get a wife, but its not possible for a lady to get a husband. As whatever we have achieved or however modernised we are, a man still looks his wife to be a good house wife only. Still my personal view is to disclose in the beginning & get rejected, than disclosing later and getting divorced. Regards Sushmeetha -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Shadab Husain Sent: 10 December 2011 16:03 To: accessindia; [email protected] Subject: [AI] Of disclosing 'disability' before marriage Of disclosing 'disability' before marriageThere was a time when my mother and sister were searching a bride for me. I had insisted to have my visual 'disability' (as others call it)be totally disclosed. People initially showed interest and willingness in my proposal, but the moment my Retinitis Pigmentosa-causedblindness was disclosed, either they did not carry the issue furtheror politely tendered their refusals.My parents and sister used to feel sorry for this, and they found it difficult to tell me that I again am being refused for the fear thatI will get disheartened. But I had not committed a guilty or shameful act due to which I was facing rejections, so I saw no reason to get disheartened. Indeed, the fact that people were interested in me until my blindness was disclosed was a positive point for me. I have not caused my blindness; it is caused due to reasons beyond my control,then why to feel sorry over it? Yet, I must confess that sometimes I used to feel dejected, but there was light at the end of the tunnel.We had a very old friendship with a family. They used to frequent usoften, and once all of a sudden my mother kept my marriage proposal to them. They gladly agreed, the mother of my supposed wife merrilytelling us "What is the use of asking? My daughter is yours, we knowyour son, he is our child, everything is settled." Both the families came in the mood to have a great celebration.Marriage celebrations or their preparations seem to be so divine that we feel as if everyone, even our bloodthirsty enemies, are loving andblessing us in their hearts. The noteworthy thing was that we hadvisited each other so much that it was clear that they know about myblindness. Moreover, my sister too has RP, and they had helped her often. Yet my sight problem was impressed upon them. But they just didnot listen to us and even told my sister not to talk about that issueagain as if it was hurting them. Marriage is a big thing. Everything was clear but I felt someuneasiness and requested to talk with the girl because I did not wantto take chances. We went to meet them. It turned out that they were not taking my sightproblem seriously because they were thinking that I have enough sightto do my work on my own. For instance, they knew that I work oncomputers and move around the city and out of the city independently (at the time these talks were taking place I was out of station). Butthe astonishing thing was that they could not realise that in the course of time I have become blind. I told her mother point-blank: "I can only see light. I am looking towards your face because of your voice. I use screen readingtechnology to work on computers. And I use a cane when I walk alone.I cannot see." She gave a pause. That pause clearly expressed that she was broken.(Later, I came to know from my mother that her hands were shaking atthat time.) Then I talked with the girl who had already known about the new condition I was in. She sounded perplexed and disinclined. Their reaction, though, was normal. Anyone would have reacted in asimilar manner after knowing about my blindness. My marriage date wasto be fixed, but now they needed time and told us that they were unaware that I had lost my sight. I thought that the game was over. But I was wrong. Days passed. One good evening, the mother of the girl-who-could-be-my-wife came to our home and started showering praises on me. She talked to me in a tearfully sympathetic tone, though I had not needed it. Apologising from her expressions and tone, she told us that her daughter was not willing to marry me. I was thankful because if this condition had disclosed after marriage, I would have been in great trouble.At my home, I gave a small party to my friends, and called it 'In the name of my cancelled marriage'! It was meant to truly celebrate life;it was not one of those Bollywood parties in which bottles areuncorked, there is false enjoyment all around, and the main character ineptly tries to forget his grief in the make-believe. Thankfully, wereally enjoyed our party, and since my room is quite separated, we made a lot of noise until the early hours of the morning.Days passed. Wham! The mother of the girl-who-could-be-my-wife told us that her daughter wants to marry me! She was deeply moved by thathonesty stuff. Earlier too, that delicate creature had cried andprayed for me a lot, on hearing that I have become blind. Her familymembers, too, had prayed and cried, and now the girl was willing to marry me. It was a U-turn! Can you even guess what happened after that? Celebrations, excitement, religious and cultural rituals... no, nothing of the sort.I was not very impressed with prayers and tears. (Though I always begfor God's mercy and crave for prayers of His creations.) I had earliertold my sister that they have the right to reject me, but acceptanceafter rejection will not affect me. I remained a bachelor. I started to train myself to lead an unmarried life. I found manypeople (including two blind men) who were very sufficiently leading alonesome life and asked myself: "If they can do it, why cannot I?" Living alone is difficult, but not impossible. Loneliness humbles you, brings forth your good qualities and teaches you how to be happy inneed. It is a lovely teacher which urges you to be independent of allexcept God. I was not pessimistic to adopt such an approach; I only tried to be practical. Had I been pessimistic, I would have told my family membersnot to search a bride for me because "I want to live alone." Besides,I have a small rule of life, which is to try to be happy in an unnatural or adverse situation, but never to willingly prolong or embrace it. True, bearing pain patiently brings forth our good qualities, but this does not mean that we don't take steps to eliminate it. I lived and enjoyed the present without caring about the future. Ipursued my hobbies (reading, writing and travelling) and tried not tomiss a chance to improve myself. Days passed. The final shot readers! One fine evening I was introducedto a girl by my mother and sister to whom I told each and everythingabout my sight. It is close to midnight now, and guess what....that girl is with me because thankfully she is my wife! -----Shadab Husain works as a receptionist at Chhatrapati Shahuji Maharaj Medical University, Lucknow. He has an MA in English literature, andhas pursued a diploma in computer applications as well as apersonality development course. 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