I believe the menu bar doesn't appear when you open the document in the
browser, there's one in Adobe Reader. You can save a local copy of the
document by pressing CTRL+SHIFT+S and view the local copy in Adobe Reader to
avail the menu bar.

Best Regards,
Zujar

An optimist laughs to forget while a pessimist forgets to laugh...


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Vikas Kapoor
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 9:51 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility

Thanks Zujar, it's workable to some extent. Actually in such type of
documents no menu bar appears on the screen so I presumed we cannot change
the zoom but pressing the shortcut did the jod.

On 6/14/12, Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dear Vikas,
>
> I checked my Vodafone bill that is secured and password protected by 
> Vodafone when sent through email just after reading your input below. 
> I could read the bill period, amount due, bill period, my name and so 
> on. The voice accent is too bad and some discrepancies like "Voclafone",
"8 Wind"
> instead of "B Wing", etc.
>
> Note that it produces different results when you scan Screen, Window 
> and Control - not fair and needs improvement. Also press CTRL+1 to set 
> the document to actual size and then try scanning. One more pain point 
> is that you need to scroll the pages manually, the OCR scans only what 
> appears on screen.
>
> Best Regards,
> Zujar
>
> An optimist laughs to forget while a pessimist forgets to laugh...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Vikas 
> Kapoor
> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 7:55 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility
>
> Not a single word is scanned through JAWS OCR in these kinds of files.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 7:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility
>
>
> How about using the OCR shipped with JAWS 13? I've used the demo on 
> this year's Form 16 with some degree of success, Mphasis distributes 
> Form 16 in a protected form and was totally inaccessible till last 
> year. Though everything it read out was not correct, I could interpret 
> it to a certain extent and was also able to validate the digital 
> signature on it without sighted assistance. I believe it can be 
> improved for more accuracy in the coming versions.
>
> Someone on the list may share their experience with the OCR coming 
> with NVDA please.
>
> On 6/14/12, Pamnani <[email protected]> wrote:
>> OK ants are hardworking so lets get to work. We have to pull the 
>> wagon and we have to push it in the direction we want. Most of us 
>> have read the story
>>
>> of the ant and the grasshopper so lets get busy while the sun is shining.
>> The copyright issue took us 10 years and now part 2 of the war has 
>> started.
>>
>> In the interim we can tackle this little thing.
>>
>>
>> 1. Vikas please find the address of this lab-preferably the 
>> registered office address and the name of the big 
>> shot-CEO/Chairman/MD 2. Please someone type the issue-I am not good with
technical words.
>> Explain
>>
>> what is happening and what is not.
>> 3. Then the legal blah blah I will add.
>>
>> 4. Soldier ants  lets go for it....
>>
>>
>>
>> Kanchan Pamnani
>> Advocate & Solicitor
>> 9, Suleman Chambers,
>> Battery Street, Colaba,
>> Mumbai - 400 039.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Kotian, H P" <[email protected]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility
>>
>>
>>> Dear Vikas
>>>
>>> Strictly speaking, this issue is out of scope from the Copyright bill.
>>> In
>>>
>>> keeping with the spirit of your assertion, we certainly must demand 
>>> accessible PDF statement.  This is a perpetual battle we will have 
>>> to deal
>>>
>>> with.
>>> There cannot be a software solution because the content developer in 
>>> his wisdom set the security so.
>>>
>>> Accessibility  is an unearthly word in the world of the able bodied. 
>>> The effort involved is so huge it feels like ants trying to pull a 
>>> railway wagon.
>>>
>>> Harish Kotian
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Vikas Kapoor [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> Sent: 14 June 2012 12:59
>>> To: Access India
>>> Subject: [AI] PDF Inaccessibility
>>>
>>> Folks,
>>> It is deeply regretted that on the one hand the copyright bills has 
>>> given
>>>
>>> us an opportunity to access an abundance of print material which 
>>> hither to
>>>
>>> cannot be accessed by the print disabled people, while on the other 
>>> hand we're unable to access our own personal documents, be they the 
>>> medical reports, bank statements or any official bills because most 
>>> of the corporate sectors these days are producing the PDF documents 
>>> in such a way
>>>
>>> which cannot be read out by any screen reader. For quite some time, 
>>> the Lal Pathology Laboratory, which is supposed to be the best 
>>> accredited lab
>>>
>>> all over India has been producing the personal medical reports which 
>>> are not accessible through any screen reader. As soon as you open 
>>> them, you screen reader will give you a message "the Author set this 
>>> documents in a
>>>
>>> way which prevents access," and the JAWS will say protection 
>>> failure., needless to mention that the contents are very much 
>>> visible on the screen
>>>
>>> for a sighted people and not accessible by the screen readers. If 
>>> anybody
>>>
>>> has any solution to this, can share, except indeed suggesting to 
>>> convert the same with the help of any OCR programme, which is of 
>>> course is the last option. I think we, as an organization, or any 
>>> registered organisation can approach to them and launch the protest 
>>> on behalf of the
>>>
>>> entire VI community because this is also a violation to our right to 
>>> print
>>>
>>> accessibility.
>>> Vikas Kapoor,
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>>> Mobile: (+91) 9891098137.
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