Shadab Ji is absolutely right, in my opinion. If it is not required, it would be better not to disclose so that we can avoid possibilities for blaming our fate if we did not get an invitation for the interview. Thank you.
Sathiya. On 6/10/13, Shadab Husain <[email protected]> wrote: > Well, it depends! The prospective employer might trash the CV if > hundred per cent blindness is mentioned in it. While the same > employer, if the disability is omitted , might get impressed in the > interview with a blind person. Is it time to crack a fresh discussion > on this topic? > > PS My new post: > > Six tips to make a good resume > > So what does it take to compose a perfect resume? A resume that could > compel your potential recruiter to do an interview with you for that > dream job? > > http://www.PersonalityAndEnglish.blogspot.com > > On 5/2/10, Renuka Warrier <[email protected]> wrote: >> I have been following >> all the mails discussing this matter and in my personal experience, >> informing the authorities about our disability well in advance before >> going >> to the interview do us good only. It makes them decide the suitable job >> for >> us and post us accordingly. >> Renuka >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Adina Galani" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 1:00 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Disclosing disability in CV >> >> >>> Well, if you can manage employers' shocked face while seeing you, trying >>> to make you feel horrible, just because they didn't know before that you >>> are blind, I think is ok not to specify it. On the other hand, most of >>> us >>> have studied in schools for blind or visually impaired people, how is >>> one >>> supposed to avoid writing it? I am personally for writing it, even if >>> the >>> perspective is bit limited. If they do not want blind people amongst >>> their >>> >>> employees', they will surely manage not to get you, with or without your >>> specification in the c v. I doubt hiding it really brings much but >>> contrary. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Sameer" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 8:48 AM >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Disclosing disability in CV >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Dear Amit, >>>> >>>> Your point about employers being aware about the disability is valid >>>> when >>>> >>>> the job is reserved for the disabled. >>>> >>>> My query was whether we should indicate our disability on our CV when >>>> applying for a job in the open category - where there is no >>>> reservation. >>>> In such cases employers may not be aware of our disabilities if we do >>>> not >>>> >>>> mention it in our CV. In such cases, some of our friends have been not >>>> allowed to appear for interviews after reaching the place of interview >>>> because the prospective employers did not know that they were blind. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Mr. Sameer Latey, >>>> Mumbai, India >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Amit Bhatt" <[email protected]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 9:45 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Disclosing disability in CV >>>> >>>> >>>>> As I have tried to indicate in my previous communication, if the >>>>> employers are ready to call the persons with disabilities for >>>>> appearing >>>>> in the interview, obviously they would be aware about how a disabled >>>>> person, say Visually Challenged person, can work in the Office with >>>>> the >>>>> support of various screen reading Application and other assistive >>>>> technologies. If an employer is not aware of how a Visually Impaired >>>>> worker can work in the company, they would simply not even think to >>>>> open >>>>> >>>>> the position and arrange the interview for us. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, Amit Bhatt >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala" <[email protected]> >>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 9:18 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Disclosing disability in CV >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> My personal experience is that not mentioning the disability in >>>>>> CV/Resume >>>>>> may not give an opportunity to the potential employer to decide >>>>>> whether >>>>>> >>>>>> to >>>>>> call the candidate for the interview in the first place. There's no >>>>>> point in >>>>>> going to an interview and failing due to the interviewer not being >>>>>> aware of >>>>>> your disability. Not every employer may be able to provide you with >>>>>> vision >>>>>> aids at workplace. Mentioning about your disability, on the contrary, >>>>>> helps >>>>>> a willing employer to prepare for including a differently abled >>>>>> candidate in >>>>>> the work-force. >>>>>> >>>>>> I had been selected at four different places (not willing to point >>>>>> out >>>>>> on >>>>>> the list) in the initial stage of my career and then rejected simply >>>>>> due to >>>>>> those employers not being able to grasp that I can work comfortably >>>>>> with a >>>>>> little adjustments to the screen display. Yes, those days I was not >>>>>> aware of >>>>>> screen readers and even if I were, they seemed not in a position to >>>>>> acquire >>>>>> it in their organizations. >>>>>> >>>>>> After such unfavourable experiences, I decided to include my >>>>>> disability >>>>>> >>>>>> in >>>>>> my Resume. When I was called for an interview from Mphasis, my >>>>>> current >>>>>> employer, I first enquired whether the HR person calling me knows >>>>>> that >>>>>> I am >>>>>> visually challenged. His consent helped me know that I would not have >>>>>> to >>>>>> face a failure due to disability and I went for the interview. >>>>>> >>>>>> Its good to disclose what you are right in the first place. Of >>>>>> course, >>>>>> this >>>>>> may invite some bias but that's inevitable. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best Regards, >>>>>> Zujar... >>>>>> >>>>>> An optimist laughs to forget, whereas a pessimist forgets to laugh! >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Amit >>>>>> Bhatt >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 8:14 PM >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Disclosing disability in CV >>>>>> >>>>>> I endorse to your opinion, Shadab. >>>>>> >>>>>> Generally the employers specify the vacant position for persons with >>>>>> disabilities. HR officials manage the database in some organizations >>>>>> in >>>>>> >>>>>> case >>>>>> >>>>>> they have any disabled employee. So it barely matters to disclose the >>>>>> disability in CV. >>>>>> >>>>>> Another fact is that there are very a few companies where the >>>>>> disabled >>>>>> employees are hired directly by the employers in India. And even if >>>>>> they >>>>>> wish to appoint the disabled workers, they clearly mention about it, >>>>>> as >>>>>> >>>>>> I >>>>>> have said in above line. So it is self-explanatory for both the side, >>>>>> employers and candidates that only persons with disabilities may >>>>>> apply >>>>>> for >>>>>> the mentioned position. >>>>>> >>>>>> More often than not, private employers call the applicants for the >>>>>> interview >>>>>> >>>>>> through any organization or consultancy. In this process, employers >>>>>> are >>>>>> already informed about the disability of the candidate. >>>>>> >>>>>> I also believe that disability is neither our quality nor any >>>>>> poor-quality, >>>>>> and, employers hire us not for our disability, but for our ability. >>>>>> Hence, >>>>>> to broach the note on the disability inResume, is not necessary in my >>>>>> opinion. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Warm regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Amit Bhatt >>>>>> >>>>>> Senior Executive - Reservations >>>>>> Far Horizon Tours Pvt. Ltd. India >>>>>> Ph-Off: +91 129 4098040 | Fax: +91 129 4098098 >>>>>> >>>>>> List Manager - SayEverything, an open discussion forum dedicated to >>>>>> persons >>>>>> with disabilities >>>>>> http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/sayeverything/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Direct Cell: +91 9560175887 >>>>>> >>>>>> Assistant Trainer - The Dialogue in the Dark >>>>>> http://www.dialogue-se.com >>>>>> >>>>>> Skype: amitbhattindia >>>>>> >>>>>> "A player that makes a team great is more valuable than a great >>>>>> player" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Shadab Husain" <[email protected]> >>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 5:20 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Disclosing disability in CV >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On the other hand, seeing the trend of unacceptability, I am afraid - >>>>>> there is a possibility that the moment the employer would read about >>>>>> disability, he will reject the CV. >>>>>> >>>>>> Hiding the disability, or to put it more appropriately, not >>>>>> mentioning >>>>>> it in the CV should also be taken into consideration. If the CV is >>>>>> shortlisted, the candidate will get an opportunity to talk up the >>>>>> disability and demonstrate his abilities provided that he has a >>>>>> laptop. >>>>>> >>>>>> Vamshi sir you have wisely advised that the tasks that we can perform >>>>>> using the assistive technology should be mentioned. But you will >>>>>> readily agree that still there is a lot of ignorance about the >>>>>> technology we use, and I know that it is hard to make others >>>>>> understand that we are quite comfortable with computers. >>>>>> >>>>>> This was a contrasting opinion, but bringing it forth was necessary >>>>>> so >>>>>> that we can examine the pros and cons of the thing. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> Shadab >>>>>> Shadablucknow.blogspot.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 4/26/10, akhilesh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi mr. Sameer, >>>>>>> Undoubtedly you've raised an important issue, and it seems that >>>>>>> we're >>>>>>> all agreeing on the fact that the disability should be disclosed. >>>>>>> However, as you've said, the interviewer tends to skip such >>>>>>> information, so it seems no use of mentioning your disability. >>>>>>> I personally think that it should be highlighted in such a way, that >>>>>>> it could attract the attention at 2nd or 3rd glance of your CV. >>>>>>> Asterisk it, bold it, but it should stand separate of cv's format. >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Akhilesh. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 4/25/10, harish <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>> To add to the discussion, you can also enlist contact info of a few >>>>>>>> blind >>>>>>>> persons who could be reffered with a brief description of the work >>>>>>>> profile. >>>>>>>> Pl do take care in, first, seeking confirmation from the persons >>>>>>>> reffered >>>>>>>> and that they are also persuing an occupation similar to the job >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> question. >>>>>>>> This will help in easing the concerns and apprehensiveness in their >>>>>>>> mind. >>>>>>>> Harish. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "Vamshi. G" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 10:21 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Disclosing disability in CV >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I second Subramani sir's opinion. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Besides, exposing our disability before the employer is >>>>>>>>> inevitable. >>>>>>>>> And by hiding it in the CV, we are only postponing the inevitable. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> When we mention about our disability in the CV, we should make >>>>>>>>> sure >>>>>>>>> that we also mention the coping strategies like mobility, >>>>>>>>> assistive >>>>>>>>> technology etc. And also, as we know the job we are going to do, >>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>> should write how we think we are fit for handling that particular >>>>>>>>> job >>>>>>>>> despite the disability. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Leave the standard format of CV and customise it to each and >>>>>>>>> every >>>>>>>>> job applied for. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> G. Vamshi >>>>>>>>> PH Res : +91 877-2243861 >>>>>>>>> Mobile: +91 9949349497 >>>>>>>>> E-mail ID: >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> Skype: gvamshi81 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> www.retinaindia.org >>>>>>>>>>From darkness unto light >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 4/25/10, Subramani L <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Despite being a disadvantage, I strongly feel the disability of a >>>>>>>>>> person >>>>>>>>>> must be clearly mentioned in a separate section ccalled >>>>>>>>>> "Disability" >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> a proper description of it. Hiding it would make you guilty of >>>>>>>>>> concealing a fact that is vital to the employee's judgement of >>>>>>>>>> you. >>>>>>>>>> Since in some cases you may be the first disabled ccandidate to >>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>> appearing for the job, hiding your disability would also imply >>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>> not comfortable about your disability, which would never leave >>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>> in a >>>>>>>>>> stronger position to convince your potential employer that your >>>>>>>>>> disability won't come in the way of your ability to perform. >>>>>>>>>> Besides if >>>>>>>>>> you are not comfortable about it, the employee will have all the >>>>>>>>>> good >>>>>>>>>> reasons of not feeling comfortable hiring you. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hiding it is hardly going to help you, so mention it voluntarily >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> show that you have done a good job of dealing with the ccondition >>>>>>>>>> yourself. Surely some employees will see the logic of such an >>>>>>>>>> argument >>>>>>>>>> and -with all your prowess with the PC and internet- may even >>>>>>>>>> think >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> giving you a chance. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Subramani >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>>>>>>>>> Sameer >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 1:26 PM >>>>>>>>>> To: Access India >>>>>>>>>> Subject: [AI] Disclosing disability in CV >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dear Friends, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We recently had a discussion on whether we should disclose our >>>>>>>>>> disability >>>>>>>>>> during the ongoing national census. I wish to know the members' >>>>>>>>>> viewpoints >>>>>>>>>> on disclosure of disability in job interviews in cases where >>>>>>>>>> there >>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>> no >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> reservation. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I seek the members' views on the following queries. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 1.. Whether we should disclose our disability in the CV sent to >>>>>>>>>> prospective employers, job consultants or posted on various job >>>>>>>>>> portals? >>>>>>>>>> 2.. In case we decide to disclose our disability in the CV, >>>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>> should >>>>>>>>>> it be disclosed? Assuming the CV has 4 sections - General >>>>>>>>>> Information, >>>>>>>>>> Educational record, work experience & salary details, where >>>>>>>>>> should >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> disability be disclosed & in what manner? >>>>>>>>>> 3.. In case we are called for a job interview, should we check >>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>> advance >>>>>>>>>> whether the company will be willing to consider us inspite of our >>>>>>>>>> disability? This query is more relevant in case we have not >>>>>>>>>> disclosed >>>>>>>>>> our >>>>>>>>>> disability in the CV since some blind friends who had not >>>>>>>>>> disclosed >>>>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>>>> blindness were refused permission even to appear for the >>>>>>>>>> interview >>>>>>>>>> when >>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>> reached the employer's office. 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