Very good summary. I was also present at the meeting.
Rohit

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Subject: [AI] My notes: National Confrence on Harnessing Technology for VI
at IICC yesterday

At the Outset, I should ask was any information regarding this
confrence was supplied on Access India?
Below is my notes
As I start this exercise for my teacher and mentor  to be aware about
my experience there, I must express my reservation straightaway on the
Designation of NIVH, why  it is still known as National Institute for
Visually Handicap. Yes 'Handicap'. It doesn't resonate with the
progress we've made over the years  in the country and it is
politically futile. and I discussed this to one of their
representatives  out of public view to prepare a proposal to get it
renamed.  Anyway, Indian Islamic Cultural Centre at Delhi's Heart
Lodhi Road Is buzz with More than 150 Blind students, professionals,
Researchers, Librarians, and of Course Almost All major NGOs Heads
active in the Field. My Library Head is also here, I'm so glad...
3 Security Guards seemed to have been sensitized to help blind
visitors. And all are greeted by Tags like Madam/sir here not there.

The venue doesn't look friendly for people with locomotor disability,
and Stairs are every where to facilitate your movement In fact, Lunch
is being served where one has to go 14 stairs down... and again its
self-serving system. Alas blindness... Main attraction for people like
me are Many bureaucrats Including Stuti Kakkar, Secretary Department
of Disability Affairs Well-groomed, welcoming jesture and easy to
interact thanks to Miss Priya, one of the employees at IICC who helped
me meet her and gave little description of her  jestures. She sounded
determined to do something new which has never happened. Then I
thought was there Department of Disability Affairs before? Anyway she
discussed many fascets of Department's innitiatives and promise to do
more like monitoring of Braille presses.and of course agreed to assist
me in my field work and visit to her office.

Now itstime to get ready to pay attention to speakers. I just opened
the braille sheets given to me checked the list and started thinking
how this plenary sessions are structured, and those who are going to
speak in the morning, will get attention from the Government
bureaucrats because these special individuals are not going to stay
longer to the venue... So this politics of visibility is well
manefested there. And I know it happens everywhere. Afterall, all can
not speak in the morning you know...

Braille sheets are well-dotted and found names like: Dr Sam, Mr
Depender , Mr George, Mr Prashant Verma, Mr Ketan Kothari, Mr Nirmal
Verma, Mr A.K  Mittal, And others.  not only this, sessions are gonna
be chaired by People like Mr SK Rungta, Madam Kanchan Pamnani Mr Akhil
Paul, Mr Rama Krishna and others. my laptop is opened now to note:
what these speakers have to say whom majority of us know as leading
from the front. All are conversing in English 'language of the
priviliged'. But in the backside Students are talking in Hindi but
very slowly, and when any known face crosses these young adults they
also start murmering in english. Lappy is charged it will work till
five hours at least. First Plenary session is on Accessibility to
Banking Services.

This session is chaired by Mr SK Rungta Who started off by saying:
'Technology can deceive us', And hailed Aadhar as critical for banking
services. Then I recalled recent Supreme Court Order which
categorically states: 'Aadhar Card is not mendatory for availing
government  services'.

Below my rough unedited fast notes from the venue And I couldn't note
all speakers because had to leave  later in the day.
First Plainery on Banking session for blind
Mr SK Rungta is chairing the session.
Mr Rungta: Coming of Addhar card is very critical for banking services
There are attitudinal barriers from opening the account to accessing
other services.
First speaker: Sam Taraporwala
Sam: Banks need to go KYC process Know to your customer to realize
their potential. Blind have diverse banking needs. What rules say:
after 2008 RBI circular said: blind people are to be treated at par
with others. IBA in November that year, came out with guidelines which
said for the operationalization of the guideline. Then in 2009 we had
an RBI circular providing 1third ATMs accessible for blind people. How
do we make sure that thinks are inclusive. Today almost 70 percent
people uses mobile. Banks are fast moving in to automation. There is a
bigger challenged in convincing people. How technology is enabler we
need to understand.
Speaker: Nagesh NayarAccessibility in ATMs
He started with asking slue of questions
HSBC braught first ATm in India. 1.6 lakhs. SBI put up a branch on
Fairy boat. Union bank establishment its branch on Aryahant
Vikramaditya. First Accessible ATM was installed in canada by Canada
Royal bank. When first ATm was installed in US in 1999. So when was
India's first ATM was installed in 2012 by Union Bank of India. India
has more than 5000 Accessible ATMs. It displayes graphics, pictures
and textures. ADA of Us is the foundation document has been emulated
by other states to make public services accessible to Blind users.
Voice guidance solution was demonstrated to banks. Union bank
installed its first ATM in 2012. In febuary 2013 IBA has issued a
guideline on how to make Accessible ATMs. We have accessibility out in
the street today. We need to put all Talking ATms listing on Virtual
map so that blind users can find the Talking ATm location in their
City.
Next speaker: Ketan Kothari on Mobile Banking
First technology reaches to anybody is none other than Mobile Phone.
Mobile banking is the solution for banking services to remote residing
people. USSD Unstructured Sppplementary Service data. We can transact
multitude os transaction without sighted assistance. Who can have
mobile banking? IVRS can not offer all the services on Mobile. TRAI hs
not come up single connectivity which facilitates USSd. All the NGOs
working in the field need to advocate for better services from banks
for blind people.

Second Session on Accessibility of Web and online services
Department of Electronic Ministry of Information and Technology has
been pursuing various policies which ensure that Web Portal is
accessible to all. We have issued the guidelines to make web portal
accessible and online content accessible. SSTC Standard testing
quality certification is the norm which website owner have to go
through.
Speaker: Dr Narmita Narsihman on Web Accessibility
Accessible website is essential to use all services these. To download
books, to access banking services and so on,. Accessibility is a
measure of aproduct that can be accessed effectively by persons with
disability. If you can't listen Audio capture then its of no use. 2.0
Web accessibility guidelines She is showing the video now.
Where disabled are talking their experience of trouble while accessing
Web portals.
Maharashtra Government is giving hand on training to developers to
make web portals accessible.
Next speaker: Miss Verma
Today's wgovernment websites have difficulty in accessing websites.
www.guidelines.com is a website where you can ask your query to access
services. If I try to make non-accessibility site in to an accessible
site then it costs a lost in retrofeeting.Previous guidelines were not
there for access services on mobile.
67 Comprehensive guidelines hav been prepared now whidh will be
implemented across government websites. NIC is doing training for
government employees who are involved in designing web
portals.Ministry has award for an accessible website.

Next Speaker: Prashant Verma on accessibility of websites
"I have done the survey of few Indian websites and tried to find
whether Indian websites have complied to the standards of WCAG or
not." "I have found 3 barriers:,  No structural Mark up is very big
problem because it is non existant where lebles are not in the heading
style. Grafical content doesn't have enough description in it. As far
ass Government websites are concerned good news  is that lot of
website which are developed these days are now accessible.He is now
with the help of slides the Department of Science and Technology
website...
Now MSJE website is on the screen.
Now parliament of India website followed by Central Information
Commission's website on the screen.
Next session Reading books
First speaker: Dependra Manucha
Braille books, DAISY and e-Text books are used by blind people fo
their study purpose. Brqille translate softwres cover 19 Languages out
of 23. Then OCR which converts image in to recognizable format.
Assistive technology to be able to read it. Less than one people in
India use assistive technology in India to access Reading and other
web services. Only forty thousands people are registered with various
libraries catering the needs of Visually Challenged people. DAISY
Forum is an compelation of 92 Different organisations in the world. We
can not re-publish or re-create all published in an accessible
formats.

Next speaker: Ms. Elizabeth Gai Beaumon: Benetech
is a really non-profit Organisation deals in software developing. Benetech
runs the global literacy programme. We started to work in India in
2008. Bookshare has more than 2 Lakhs sixty thousands members. We
upload books in eight Indian Languages. How bookshare works in terms
of partners we work with DAISY Forum of India. Booksaare is growing by
3 thousands to 5 thousands books per month. And we have tied up with
big publishers like Sage, And 20 Indian Publishers.George Khushraw
General Secretary of DAISY Consudium.

Next Session: Access to Digital Television
Speaker: Mr George Abraham: He starts off  in an energetic voice by
invoking 3 passions of Indians. Cricket, Politics and Bollywood. And
Audience responds in an expected fashion. Accessibility to TV and Set
of Boxes is a bigger challenge for blind people. We don't know when
our desired channel is clicked and where it is while nevagating
through remote. He discusses his bitter experience with Tata Sky. And
advocates for audio discription of screen display.

Next Speaker Mr. Richard Orm: He starts off with talking about
'Talking TV'... He also demonstrates few Audio/Vidio sounds bits to
make audience aware about how your experience of viewing TV is
inclusive when you are described the happenings on the screen. He is
now giving some stats about blind viewership in UK. then talking about
Panasonic invention of Talking TV where remote is talking, when you
change channel it tells you the name of the channel and the programme.
This presentation is very engaging,you know...

Sorry I missed the last session because have to leave for campus
feeling headake... But would like to share my worth-noting write up
that that many sessions were chaired by those who themselves said:
'beginner in technology', And it was worth-pondering where majority of
listeners are  blind many blind themselves gave PPT presentations...
Perhaps this is the norm these days...

But overall, my first experience to listen to almost all known faces
at one place on single day who are active in the field in various
capacities will help me in planning future plann how to go take
further disability activism and movement. And time has ripped to move
out of Delhi, please...





-- 
Avinash Shahi
M.Phil Research Scholar
Centre for The Study of Law and Governance
Jawaharlal Nehru University
New Delhi India

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