dear abidi sir, please clarify me on the following points present in this bill which you supported as a great one. its saying that 5% vacant should be filled by people with disability and if there is any valid reason then those vacancies can be filled by others. already, my experience with companies including public sectors shows that they try their best to proove that we can perform nothing. if law itself says like this then how will they take efforts to identify jobs for us? personally, bank gave job only to compulsion. then they took years to identify jobs which we can do. because, they must pay me so they must identify some works to us. if law provides this loophole, then will they take efforts to identify jobs? its not only in banks, its in all departments. then, what protections are given to ladies with disability? then if this bill leaves each and every responsibility to state governments including definition of important terms, then how can we ensure that the spirit of this bill will be fullfilled?
On 2/23/14, Sathiyaprakash Ramdoss <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Mr. Abidi, > > Thanking you in advance for taking your time to write your response; > Here is one of the forwarded emails from Mr. Avinash. > > "Dear colleagues, > > > > Around 1000 persons with different disabilities assembled on Monday > Feb 10 2014 at 9 safdarjang outside malikarjun's house who is minister > to MSJE. It was our strong commitment that he be not allowed to go to > the parliament. The number kept rising and around 1 when he could not > go to the parliament he invited us for a meeting. A delegation under > the leadership of NFB general secretary met the minister and the > secretary to department of disability affairs. Which also included > NPRD, rashtriya viklang munch, human rights law network and others. > The delegation raised many questions on the amended version of the > draft and pointed out various flaws. The delegation had a discussion > over various categories of disabilities and their problems. The > minister promised us three things: > > Firstly, a joint meeting of NFB, law minister and secretary of > department of disability affairs will be held to consider the > suggestions submitted by the delegation. Secondly, if the problem > still persists, the bill will be reffered to the standing committee. > Thirdly, in the mean time if the bill is listed in the business, the > minister himself will straight away inform the chairman of Rajya Sabha > that the consultations are not complete, therefore, he is not pressing > the bill for discussion and passage till the consultations are > completed. > > However, shockingly, it was also told to us that when Javed Abidi came > for the meeting on third with the secretary of department of > disability affairs, he showed my forged signature saying that Mr. > Rungta is busy somewhere else and I'm representing the whole > disability sector. So you can understand the nepharious plans of self > styled people like Javed Abidi. > > Abidi was saying that he will teach a lesson to the blind, therefore, > we all must ask Mr. Javed Abidi now as to where is the bill today? > > I would like to thank each and everyone who supported us for this > cause. Without your support, it wouldn't have been possible to stall > the passage of this flawed bill and discrimination against disabled > would have been legitimised on grounds of disability. I'm also > thankful to the students of JNU whose hard work and intelligent inputs > helped us a lot in building up this momentum, Specially Ajay and > Avinash. I found Ajay to be a very capable fellow and an able > strategist. Avinash kept us posted about the happenings on media and > his skills on social networking websites helped us greatly. > > Lastly, I hope that we will continue to extend our cooperation to one > another, and work together in a meaningful manner to dispel any such > plans of government. Once again I thank you all for coming together > and raising voice against this black law. > > > > > > With regards, > > > > S.K. Rungta > > > > General Secretary, NFB India" > block quote end > > Cheers, Sathiyaprakash. > > > > > > > On 2/22/14, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: >> Neelima: >> >> Now that a certain phase is over, I do have more time now than was the >> case >> until yesterday! >> >> Which email of Mr. Rungta are you talking about? I haven't received any >> email from him. And if it was worth replying, I would have. Even now, if >> you >> kindly forward it to me, I will surely reply if it merits one. >> >> And really, what are Mr. Rungta's views? Is any one privy to them? Can >> any >> one explain that please? >> >> I am particularly keen to know about Mr. Rungta's views on the blind >> versus >> low vision issue. Should we go the 0.5% each route or the 1% each route? >> >> And since Mr. Rungta is no longer leading only the blind but all disabled >> people courtesy the newly created AIDA, I would also want guidance from >> my >> learned friend on his views vis a vis deaf versus hard of hearing; and >> also, >> wheelchair users versus crutch users versus those who limp. >> >> Finally, for today, I am also wanting to know from Mr. Advocate (a) if >> sign >> language should be treated as an Indian language at par with say Tamil or >> Gujarati; and (b) Advocate Rungta's views on the issue of legal capacity, >> specifically if the concept of unsound mind should be abolished and if >> there >> should be no total or plenary guardianship. >> >> (2) The 20 non negotiables were created more or less by Mr. Rungta with >> some >> help from DRG on legal capacity etc. I am sure you know that we were >> working >> together until 3rd February under the aegis of the Joint Platform. >> >> I and Syamala G. of AADI faithfully took the document to NAC, then to >> Rahul >> Gandhi and on his intervention, to Kapil Sibal. On his express >> instructions, >> a meeting was convened by the Law Secretary. >> >> If Mr. Rungta was not invited to that meeting, I can't help it. >> >> If Mr. Rungta is angry that I went and didn't take him with me, that was >> not >> within my powers. >> >> I have read somewhere that Mr. Rungta has alleged that I told MSJE/Law >> Secretary that Mr. Rungta could not come for the meeting because he was >> ill >> or busy elsewhere and that I even gave something (a "forged" letter) to >> that >> effect. That is patently false. I challenge Mr. Rungta to substantiate >> this >> allegation and provide the proof if any at all. >> >> Neelima, the truth is that we succeeded in getting as many as 16 >> amendments >> carried out! Earlier when Mr. Rungta had gone to meet Kapil Sibal, he was >> brushed aside and not one change was incorporated. >> >> Besides, if I didn't take Mr. Rungta with me, so what? Why couldn't the >> great Mr. Rungta secure a meeting on his own?? >> >> (3) We never said that the present Bill was a perfect one. Ofcourse, it >> wasn't. But, when you looked at it overall, there was much much more good >> in >> it than the shortcomings. Therefore, I was indeed very keen that it gets >> passed ASAP. That has not happened and now, it is anybody's guess as to >> what >> further changes/amendments can be made through the Standing Committee and >> in >> how much time. >> >> I am keen on a good, healthy discourse. That's why I have chosen to join >> you >> all on Access India. >> >> With good wishes, >> >> Javed Abidi >> 22.2.2014 >> >> ------Original Message------ >> From: Neelima Surve >> To: accessindia >> Cc: Javed Abidi >> ReplyTo: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Protest against promissed ordinance to clear RPWD bill at >> AICC >> Ofice >> Sent: Feb 23, 2014 2:04 AM >> >> Surprisingly, Mr. Abidi has got time for answer. Sir? is it really a >> question of other e all had already gone through all his mails, with >> the help of Mr. Ajay arora. In fact, Mr. Rungtha had sent the same >> mail to Mr. Abidi also, but, I think, he had never answered for it. At >> least, it doesn't come to us. >> >> Sir! we are also trying to make eforts for other disable along with >> us, so kindly consider Mr. Rungtha's views, & go ahead. >> >> This is my personal observation about Mr. Rungtha & his team, who is >> doing countless efort for it. >> >> We should aslo say thanks to Mr. Avinash, Pranjal, Mr. Ajay Arora. Who >> spend their sleepless night. >> >> So anyone can simply write disagree here in comment. But, Please! try >> to convince your view in some manner, so that, someone will not >> missguide.disable? as you mentioned in your earlier mail. >> >> Srinivasu Sir? How can we say that Mr. Rungtha's views are different than >> us. 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