No Javed You could not have been more beyond the mark. As an analogy, would you say because 1% seats are reserved for orthopedically disabled, they cannot and should not be appointed on remaining 99% even though they qualify for them in unreserved category?
Please give rational thought to the matter. If some posts are identified, it means and law is very much clear on this after supreme court's interpretation, that those identified posts are to be used for filling up vacancies reserved. Even quantum of reservation is independent of identification. Section 32 cannot be used to thwart section 33 of PWD act. In logic, the statement: "Some people are honest" does not mean "Some people are dishonest." But it only means there is at least one entity who is both a person and honest... The list of identified jobs is merely an indicative list, mentioning the jobs which can be performed efficiently and which should be used for filling up the reservation. Reasonable accommodation forms the core of disability rights and with reasonable accommodation almost all the jobs can be performed by persons with various kinds of disabilities. List of identified jobs is to be updated every three years. So, does it mean every three years jobs which are added become performable overnight? Law is an evolving process. Life of law is not only logic but also experience... So, Mr. Abidi, do not take such absurd and rigid stands... -----Original Message----- From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 2:13 PM To: George Abraham; Access India Subject: Re: [AI] Needed circular regarding the posts identified for Physically challenged persons (VI) Hi, George. Am not clear as to what do you mean by that. Please elaborate. I mean when you identify say 150 posts out of 400 for B which denotes Totally Blind, then obviously automatically it means that the remaining 250 posts are not identified for them and therefore they would never ever be even considered for those 250 posts even if fully qualified. Let there be no confusion on this. Javed Abidi 25.2.2014 Sent on my BlackBerry(r) from Vodafone -----Original Message----- From: "George Abraham" <[email protected]> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 14:03:38 To: <[email protected]>; 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.'<[email protected]> Subject: RE: [AI] Needed circular regarding the posts identified for Physically challenged persons (VI) Technically that should not be the case but in reality that is true! -----Original Message----- From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 25 February 2014 13:20 To: Asudani, Rajesh; Access India Subject: Re: [AI] Needed circular regarding the posts identified for Physically challenged persons (VI) That's interesting! So, let's have an exhaustive debate on this very point: Is identification of jobs good or bad?! And, Rajesh you can't have it both ways. When some jobs are identified, obviously the rest of the jobs would be denied. Javed Abidi 25.2.2014 Sent on my BlackBerryR from Vodafone -----Original Message----- From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <[email protected]> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 12:56:26 To: [email protected]<[email protected]>; AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.<[email protected]> Subject: RE: [AI] Needed circular regarding the posts identified for Physically challenged persons (VI) No, I don't quite agree. Identification of jobs, is not, per se, bad. It is bad when the list is used as exhaustive list and people are denied jobs not identified... Such practices are resorted to without legal sanctions... And, please refrain from using visual metaphors like eye opener, as they falsely equate ability to see with ability to know.... -----Original Message----- From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 12:18 PM To: Access India Subject: Re: [AI] Needed circular regarding the posts identified for Physically challenged persons (VI) I agree with Avinash. However, this "arbitrary business" of job identification is not done by the Government alone. They can't dare to. It is done with the active support and collusion of our own people in the disability sector! Therefore, please find out as to who served on the Expert Committee and the 3 Sub Committees on behalf of disabled people. It may serve as a big eye opener for many of you. Javed Abidi 25.2.2014 Sent on my BlackBerry(r) from Vodafone -----Original Message----- From: avinash shahi <[email protected]> Sender: "AccessIndia" <[email protected]> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 11:50:23 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.<[email protected]> Reply-To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled." <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AI] Needed circular regarding the posts identified for Physically challenged persons (VI) Dear Friend Though I oppose this arbitrary business of identification of jobs for persons with disabilities in India But I'm sharing MSJE recent circulars regarding identification of jobs for PWds. block quote list of Groups A, B, C and D posts which were identified suitable for persons with disabilities. The Expert Committee submitted its report on 24th January, 2012. The Central Government accepted the report and the list of posts identified for Persons with Disabilities has been published vide Notification No.16-15/2010-DD-III dated 29th July 2013 block quote end You can download lists by visiting http://www.socialjustice.nic.in/policiesacts3.php#a6 Hope this helps. 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