---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Vaishnavi Jayakumar <[email protected]> Date: Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 4:09 PM Subject: Re: Corrected Re: It happened even before I could get around to flagging this with everyone :-(
Hi all, Thanks for the response Nirmala / FACEMI and Srinivasulu. I look forward to hearing from Mr. Khan as this precedent (especially if from the state government) could be valuable. Not having heard from anyone in Delhi / activists from the ASD community I called the Under Secretary DOPT who signed off on that GO - Mr. Debabrata Das. The not so great news I have heard from him is this - *I have not independently cross-verified the same as yet *: - DOPT extends to central government employees only (he said something about central, state and joint which I didn't understand) - State Government can proactively adopt these policies for their personnel - it's up to them - Categories of disabilities sourced from PWD Act - I mentioned National Trust disabilities, he said when amended Act comes into law then we will follow that. Now before this goes into a debate on happenings past, present or future wrt New Law(s) - I'd like to flag the restriction of this policy to disabled people alone. What if I am a caregiver of someone with cancer? Or someone needing dialysis? Such groups whether or not considered disabled (either by definition or by societal perception) will need relief under this - individual pleas on compassionate grounds may not always cut it. The *option* of exemption from transfers needs to be for carers with dependents who for whatever reason (disability / illness etc) would be adversely affected by the shift. Also, would *choosing* exemption from transfer affect promotion? These are some of the questions I'd like to put out to everyone. Also if anyone can find out what triggered this GO - (I am doubtful that such provisions would be made out of proactive largesse) - am sure it would be useful if shared with the group. As it is unlikely that this particular policy will be useful to Mr. Srini in this limited time - Srinivasulu from NPDO-AP / Sai Global AID / others who may have leads in Andhra Pradesh / Telengana - it looks like something needs to be tried quickly at the state level. Regards, Vaishnavi http://about.me/vjayakumar On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 8:33 PM, facemindia <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear all > I have included K.Z.Khan in this mail coz as a care giver of MI sister and > perhaps mother too, he had filed a case against his Ministry when they > transfered him to UP. In fact, even Keshav Desiraju tried talkg to his Sec. > But by then he had filed a case or was part of ongoing case. But eventually > the Court cancelled his transfer. > I request Khan to share the case details with rest of us. > warm wishes > nirmala > > > Sent from Samsung Mobile > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Vaishnavi Jayakumar > Date:15/06/2014 17:12 (GMT+05:30) > To: Amrit Bakhshy , Soumitra Pathare , [email protected], > [email protected], [email protected] > Cc: Facem India , "merry. barua" , Hema Jairam , "Adv. Vashishth" , Amba > Salelkar , Rajive Raturi , madhusudan srinivas , parul kumtha , > "kanchanpamnani@gmail com" , B Vijayakumar Advocate , Beena Prithiveeraj , > Gita Srikanth , Kavitha Krishnamoorthy , "Muralidharan (NPRD, India)" , > TARATDAC S Namburajan , Poonam Nataraj , "Col. Ajay Mehndiratta" , Javed > Abidi , sudha kaul , "parivaarncpo@gmail com" , jpgadkari jpgadkari , > [email protected], Shampa Sengupta , srinu vasulu , "people with > disabilities of India...on air travel We" , [email protected], GG MHA > Reform , "mhanewsviewsindia@googlegroups com" , Sai Padma Anand , > "accessindia@accessindia in" , "[email protected] in" , > ashu1809 , cdevyani , [email protected] > Subject: Re: Corrected Re: It happened even before I could get around to > flagging this with everyone :-( > > Rightly said Amrit. Sorry Soumitra - you've been dragged into the > conversation ;-) > > Mr. Srini, Amrit has done some homework for you. I'm guessing Sunday > siesta is happening for a whole bunch of others! (KIDDING!) > > http://about.me/vjayakumar > > > On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Amrit Bakhshy <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Dear Vaishnavi, >> >> The question asked as to whether autism and developmental >> disabilities were included was asked by Soumitra (not Nirmala). >> >> I feel if Merry Barua of Action for Autism takes it up with the DOPT, the >> relief may come. In fact all the 19 disabilities listed in the schedule to >> the Rights of Persons with Disabilities Bill 2014 should be covered in the >> DOPT circular. >> >> Mr. Srini may request the local NGOs to represent his case to the state >> government and to the State Electricity Company he works for. The following >> contact details may help: >> >> >> 1. Autism Society of Andhra Pradesh Hyderabad, autismsociety.hyderabad >> @gmail.com , 040-64502596 and 09848513192 >> 2. Parents Association for Autistic Children Secunderabad, >> [email protected] and [email protected] , 040-55223151 >> and 09247165760 >> >> >> Amrit >> >> >> >> On 15 June 2014 15:56, Vaishnavi Jayakumar <[email protected] >> > wrote: >> >>> Apologies - Mr. Srini's email should have read [email protected] - >>> I had erroneously entered mamunduru instead. It is corrected in this email >>> >>> http://about.me/vjayakumar >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Vaishnavi Jayakumar < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> People, >>>> >>>> I rarely get to read in detail what I share as information, so it was >>>> only when Nirmala asked about people with autism and developmental >>>> disabilities wrt the recent DOPT circular on transfer policy >>>> <http://ccis.nic.in/WriteReadData/CircularPortal/D2/D02adm/42011_3_2014-Estt.Res.-06062014.pdf> >>>> and disabled dependents and Amrit replied in the negative, that I went back >>>> and checked. Sure enough the description is dated - >>>> >>>> >>>>> *the word 'disabled' includes (i) blindness or low vision **(ii) >>>>> hearing impairment (iii) locomotor disability or Cerebral Palsy (iv) >>>>> leprosy cured (v) mental retardation (vi) mental illness and (vii) >>>>> multiple >>>>> disabilities.* >>>> >>>> >>>> - the only saving grace from this otherwise restrictive description is >>>> the word 'includes' and the fact the this is not a definition in the true >>>> sense of the word. >>>> >>>> Today I happened to come across the exchange below. >>>> >>>> >>>>> *On Jun 2, 2014 6:58 PM, "[email protected] >>>>> <[email protected]> [AutismIndia]" <* >>>>> *[email protected]:* >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> sir/madam >>>>> i am having 12yrs child who is autistic, currently living in >>>>> Hyderabad, and working with state power distribution company ltd >>>>> ,during >>>>> state bifurcation i have been allotted to some other region where the >>>>> facilities for these children are nil. i represented my case to the >>>>> higher >>>>> authorities with all the relevant medical reports, but they bluntly >>>>> refused >>>>> my request ,i was shocked and dont know what to do now ,pl suggest me >>>>> way >>>>> out.thank you >>>>> srini m >>>> >>>> >>>> Mr. Srini and others who responded (see eom) are cc'ed on this email. >>>> This needs to be addressed ASAP - I was wondering about the following : >>>> >>>> 1. Has any autism / developmental disability / larger disability >>>> group addressed this with DoPT officially? If so what is the status? >>>> >>>> 2. Mr. Srini - did you share this circular when appealing against >>>> the transfer? If so is there any paperwork regarding reason for >>>> rejection >>>> of your request? >>>> >>>> >>>> Who would like to take this forward? >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Vaishnavi >>>> >>>> >>>> *is there any protection of placement for parent of autistic chil* >>>>> >>>>> *On Jun 2, 2014 6:58 PM, "[email protected] >>>>> <[email protected]> [AutismIndia]" < * >>>>> *[email protected]:* >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> sir/madam >>>>> i am having 12yrs child who is autistic, currently living in >>>>> Hyderabad, and working with state power distribution company ltd >>>>> ,during >>>>> state bifurcation i have been allotted to some other region where the >>>>> facilities for these children are nil. i represented my case to the >>>>> higher >>>>> authorities with all the relevant medical reports, but they bluntly >>>>> refused >>>>> my request ,i was shocked and dont know what to do now ,pl suggest me >>>>> way >>>>> out.thank you >>>>> srini m >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> *10.1 Re: is there any protection of placement for parent of autistic >>>>> chil* >>>>> *Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:58 pm . Posted by: "ashutosh gupta" >>>>> ashutosh_gupta_2001* >>>>> May be you go to a Tribunal or file a case in High court. >>>>> God when will authorities in India become sensitive enough. >>>>> I can understand your situation (present Telengana govt. would be >>>>> forcing >>>>> govt. officials to go to seemandhra state) >>>>> wishing you the best. >>>>> regards >>>>> Ashutosh >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> *10.2 Re: is there any protection of placement for parent of autistic >>>>> chil **Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:58 pm . Posted by: "Devyani Chaudhury" >>>>> autistic_mom1* >>>>> Srini, >>>>> Unfortunately there is none. You can request.. Sorry. >>>>> Devyani. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------ >>>> >>>> >>>> http://about.me/vjayakumar >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> *The shame of mental illness is the shameful lack of care and >> understanding.* >> > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ To unsubscribe send a message to [email protected] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. 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