friends, don't think learning braille is a tedious job. its very easier than learning the pronounciation of ESpeak or eloquants and just learning the number formats is enough for recognising rupee if that facility is included in plastic notes.
On 7/10/14, Kanchan Pamnani <[email protected]> wrote: > Do you have a senior citizen in your family or even a middle aged person > then think of that person when yu say things like"Well, if a blind person > doesn't know braille, then he/she should make >> efforts to learn it." > > Maybe schemes are made for the lettered then probably half the budget and a > > lot of India is out of it. > Kanchan Pamnani > Advocate & Solicitor > 9, Suleman Chambers, > Battery Street, Colaba, > Mumbai - 400 039. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Avichal Bhatnagar" <[email protected]> > To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues > concerningthe disabled." <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 6:38 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] braille BUDGET 2014 > > >> Well, if a blind person doesn't know braille, then he/she should make >> efforts to learn it. >> The schemes can be launched only for literate ones, not for unlettered. >> >> On 7/10/14, Kanchan Pamnani <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Lets start with the fact that "Braille is important even today"-there is >>> >>> no >>> dispute or difference on this statement amongst us. >>> Now lets see the issues in perspective- >>> 1. We have a problem with texts not reaching the students in time for >>> the >>> academic year.So the government has budgeted for improvement of old >>> braille >>> presses and setting up new ones. Great laudable initiative. >>> a. Has anyone amongst us spoken about the quality of reading by our so >>> called braille teachers? Unless we demand quality education from both >>> inclusive and special schools we are not going to go further. The basics >>> >>> of >>> education for a blind child is braille and I am sorry to see the >>> condition >>> of braille reading in this country. For this we can blame our teachers >>> and >>> for the bad quality of teachers we can blame the NGOs to some extent, >>> who >>> train and certify such teachers. Who is going to bell this cat? >>> >>> The problem of material may soon get over because of this budget but >>> then >>> who is going to use this material and who is going to decipher it for >>> our >>> young ones? >>> >>> b. I cannot comment on the financial issues of running a braille press >>> because I have never gone into that area with any NGO. there are many >>> who >>> can comment on this issue. >>> c. The quality of material churned out by these Braille presses- I >>> cannot >>> comment from my own knowledge but I am told by many people who use these >>> presses that the quality is not so good now because the proof reading is >>> >>> not >>> good enough. >>> d. The issue of distribution, merging with technology and widening the >>> reach >>> of these presses others who deal with these matters can fill us in >>> with. >>> >>> 2. Notes with Braille marking-great initiative on paper >>> This has been in the pipeline for quite a while. >>> a. The possibility of actually being able to distinguish marks whether >>> braille or raised numbers or some tactile indicators depends upon the >>> paper >>> used and on how we use the notes.Therefore I think it is a great >>> initiative >>> but may not result in much. RBI is going to come out with Rs. 10 notes >>> in >>> plastic-maybe that can be a test case for the tactile markings. >>> b. The number of persons with congenitle blindness is reducing because >>> of >>> better nutrition, eradication of smallpox etc. The number of late blind >>> is >>> increasing for various reasons including the fact that people are living >>> longer and may get age related diseases so the kinds of users is >>> changing. >>> This does not take away from the fact that braille is important but >>> acceptance of universal design is important too. >>> >>> We must also focus on the other 3 items mentioned in the budget-all >>> these >>> have been on the anvil for a while. >>> >>> Also we have to look at all the initiatives on e-tendering, egovernance, >>> eclearances and a host of internet related matters that have been >>> mentioned >>> in the budget and outside it in the last 1 month. >>> >>> Kanchan Pamnani >>> Advocate & Solicitor >>> 9, Suleman Chambers, >>> Battery Street, Colaba, >>> Mumbai - 400 039. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Preeti Monga" <[email protected]> >>> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >>> concerningthe disabled.'" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 4:41 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Notes BUDGET 2014 >>> >>> >>>> There is no one answer to your question dear! I never said that blind >>>> people should not learn Braille! I only said that if there are blind >>>> people who have never had the opportunity of learning to read and write >>>> due to various reasons, as you maybe aware that not all blind are >>>> fortunate enough to be able to learn to read and write? And of course >>>> the >>>> ones who don't know Braille and are educated, they can learn the same. >>>> It >>>> will be very useful I think. So I hope I have made my question clear? >>>> Preeti >>>> >>>> Preeti Monga >>>> Director >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Mobile: +91 9871701646 >>>> Landline: 011 22781446 >>>> E-mail: [email protected] >>>> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org >>>> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. >>>> Training -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. >>>> Gifting - >>>> >>>> Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including >>>> demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive >>>> Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. >>>> >>>> We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete >>>> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>> Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 4:21 PM >>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and >>>> issuesconcerning >>>> the disabled. >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Notes BUDGET 2014 >>>> >>>> if reading and writing with the pen and pencil is necessary for the >>>> sighted >>>> person then why not braille should be larnt by blind people? >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Preeti Monga >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 3:19 PM >>>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >>>> concerningthe disabled.' >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Notes BUDGET 2014 >>>> >>>> You are absolutely right Kanchan! And what happens to those who can not >>>> read >>>> or write? Or to those who can read and write, but not in Braille? >>>> Preeti >>>> >>>> Preeti Monga >>>> Director >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Mobile: +91 9871701646 >>>> Landline: 011 22781446 >>>> E-mail: [email protected] >>>> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org >>>> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training >>>> -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting - >>>> Corporate >>>> ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying >>>> workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and >>>> Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. >>>> >>>> We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete >>>> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>> Behalf >>>> Of Kanchan Pamnani >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 3:15 PM >>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and >>>> issuesconcerning >>>> the disabled. >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Notes BUDGET 2014 >>>> >>>> >>>> This is another issue we will have to debate. >>>> the braille markings that we have seen as prototypes are not really >>>> distinguishable. Therefore this may be great for sentimental reasons >>>> but >>>> not >>>> >>>> good practically. >>>> There were many of us who tested these markings in 2009 and 2010 and >>>> none >>>> of >>>> >>>> us found it useful. >>>> Please also remember the scenario in India when notes are folded into >>>> many >>>> small portions and then these folded notes are saved in bras and in >>>> many >>>> unmentionable places. Also dont forget the sweat etc. these all make >>>> reading >>>> >>>> of braille difficult. >>>> >>>> Kanchan Pamnani >>>> Advocate & Solicitor >>>> 9, Suleman Chambers, >>>> Battery Street, Colaba, >>>> Mumbai - 400 039. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "avinash shahi" <[email protected]> >>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >>>> concerningthe disabled." <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 2:06 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] BUDGET 2014 >>>> >>>> >>>>> Nothing is accessible when money is inaccessible.... >>>>> >>>>> Jaitely hope your government acts swiftly... >>>>> And Louis Braille you long live.. >>>>> On 7/10/14, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> I meant daisy along with production of Braille. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Srinivasu Chakravarthula | PayPal | @csrinivasu >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone 5C >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 10-Jul-2014, at 11:56, Avichal Bhatnagar <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kudos to modi government for bringing a disabled friendly budget! >>>>>>> DAISY is no doubt a good way of accessing books, however it can >>>>>>> never >>>>>>> replace braille. and hence we should focus on making more braille >>>>>>> material available. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 7/10/14, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> Also propose to modernise existing Braille presses and introducing >>>>>>>> Braille >>>>>>>> on currency notes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think we should follow -up with respective departments and make >>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>> happen. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Another note, as part of modernisation why not to ask them to adopt >>>>>>>> DAISY? >>>>>>>> Dipendra , Sam - comments? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Srinivasu Chakravarthula | PayPal | @csrinivasu >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone 5C >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 10-Jul-2014, at 11:29, "bhawani shankar verma" >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear list, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> it is proposed to establish 15 new braille presses in this budget. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> bhawani shankar verma punjab national bank durg, chhattisgarh >>>>>>>>> Ph:9827157594 office:07882332562/2323097 skype : bsvermadurg >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing >>>>>>>>> accessibility >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> mobile phones / Tabs on: >>>>>>>>> >>>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind >>>> ia.org.in >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Search for old postings at: >>>>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other >>>>>>>>> changes, >>>>>>>>> please visit the list home page at >>>>>>>>> >>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Disclaimer: >>>>>>>>> 1. 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