Dear All,

i was at TEDx Bangalore on Sunday and you will be surprised to know that
the place was not accessible for wheelchair users. By giving this example I
would like to point out the mindset in our country.

This friend of mine was upset throughout the event and she constantly felt
the humiliation created by this. Not just the main entry, even the rest
rooms had staircase.

Secondly, when I was in the flight going to Bangalore, I was asked for the
feedback by Indigo but while returning back the story was different (the
staff was talking amongst themselves instead of doing the needful).

The point is that we should stop talking and start communicating in a
neutral way whenver it is needed.


And Nidhi,
I faced the similar situation and beleve me people who has the sight ignore
to realise that they are making stronger by challenging us by looking at us
critically or may bve not looking at us at all.






On 5 August 2014 13:19, Subramani L <[email protected]> wrote:

> Payal, Nidhi and others:
>
> 1.      I'm not known for saying things that are politically correct (in
> fact I was banned once from this group for my comments about a
> politician that was construed as an insult).
> 2.      I agree with Stella that mere disability doesn't make anyone
> inspirational, but as honest people we know when exactly to put a lid
> when things go overboard. There's a couplet in Tamil that's relevant
> to each of us: "A king without a critic will perish without an enemy".
> That critic must within each of us.
> 3.      On the contrary, if we think others getting inspired (genuinely) by
> a true disabled achiever like Ehric Weihenmmayer the man who touched
> the summit of Everest, we will be guilty of masochism and not
> 'inspiration porn. (to avoid any controversy, by masochism I mean
> getting pleasure or pride out of cutting ourselves from making others
> feel positive about something we do or the way we live)
> 4.      I wouldn't like to be a hypocrite to say that we should not seek
> appreciation or adulation where it's due, but at the same time, if
> each of us are honest enough, we would know where to say no to such
> things.
> 5.      On an entirely different perspective from Stella, who happens to
> live in a country where environment for the disabled is quite
> friendly, I'd say that even a seemingly mundane thing like crossing
> the road on a busy intersection (where at least a hundred sighted or
> able bodied folks suffer fatal traffic accidents) is a miracle if not
> an achievement. A disability puts us in a terrible disadvantage in
> places that are not designed for us. Now, it's all fantastic to say
> that the place needs to be redesigned for our sake, which I absolutely
> support, but we know that the mindset of people in this country is so
> hopeless that we can't expect utopia to arrive on our street corner
> for the next century and a half (that's as far as I could foresee).
> So, please do not forget that disability is still a huge challenge for
> us here in India and with this perspective we should listen to Stella,
> who, by the way, has a different perspective of truth that need not
> necessarily apply to everyone.
>
> Subramani
>
>
> On 8/4/14, nidhi goyal <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hello all
> > it was interesting to  hear Stella's  talk.
> > she has highlighted a much needed point of disability is not an exception
> > and of course the way it is used to portray inspiration. the girl without
> > the hands is objectified to inspire and push the child who perhaps has
> both
> > hands but not the  patience or temprament to paint or write his lessons
> > etc.
> > in this process the child is subconsciously given the message that he is
> > not
> > only lucky but also superior to the other girl in a fashion.
> >
> > I too ascribe to the social model of disability defined by Mike Oliver
> > which says that it is not the disability itself but the environment which
> > is
> > disabling the individuals with an impairment. with hostile
> infrastructure,
> > constant struggle for basics like education etc, the nondisabled world
> > makes
> > simple usual things  in a life an achievement and the hell they are...
> but
> > rather than them lauding  us and our everyday struggle they should be
> > ashamed of the disabling conditions they dish out.  i would like to share
> > an
> > example here. when i topped the postgraduate media  course the head of my
> > department told everyone with great pride that i had topped and you know
> > what without any extra favours from them. the favours she referred to was
> > simple accommodations like accessible study material etc. they had
> > practically made my life hell with their non cooperation and they were
> > proud
> > of me overcoming all those challenges. well kudos to me for facing the
> > challenges but shame on them for their behaviour. so the point is that
> > sometimes we are forced to combat ordinary situations which are made into
> > extra ordinary hurdles and then made out to be exceptions having achieved
> > the ability to live life, learn, work, grow.
> > on the other hand if we were to consider the disabled and the nondisabled
> > world  together, whoever has achieved something should be appreciated
> > irrespective of their disability. so when a politician, a CEO of a MNC, a
> > sports person etc can be my inspiration, i do not know why a disabled
> > person
> > who has achieved something in life should not be marked as an
> inspiration!
> > the only difference is these people will be looked up to and definitely
> not
> > with the condescending idea with which the girl without hands was being
> > considered.
> >
> > lastly,  something i have noticed happening in reality- we as disabled
> > people sometimes live in a dualism. We want to be the norm but at the
> first
> > chance of receiving special treatment, or a word of praise, or the title
> of
> > an inspiration or a celebratory award, we jump like school children do on
> > free ice cream. Like Stella said it is for us to decide if we really have
> > achieved something or are we being complimented for existing and
> > remembering
> > our name. if latter is the case and we allow this to happen simply
> because
> > we love the attention and awards etc, then we would play a major role in
> > perpetuating a deeply embedded discriminatory attitude. so it is not all
> > about them changing, it is about us mending our ways as well.
> >
> > Just my thoughts, thanks for reading.
> > Regards,
> > Nidhi Goyal
> > disability and gender rights activist
> > MSC Development Studies, LSE
> > twitter @saysnidhigoyal
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf
> > Of payal
> > Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 4:34 PM
> > To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
> issuesconcerning
> > the disabled.'
> > Subject: Re: [AI] I am not your inspiration- Stella Young on
> > deglorifyingdisability!
> >
> > Yes Avinash. Often it is the easiest thing to do. give them a consolation
> > prize of being right up there, an ispiration and then grumble about the
> > idol
> > having feet of clay.
> > If only they could just accept us for who we are, life would be a better
> > place for all of us!  This video was fantastic!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 3:45 PM
> > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
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> > Subject: Re: [AI] I am not your inspiration- Stella Young on
> > deglorifyingdisability!
> >
> > Wonderful. Enjoyed listening.
> >
> > agreed, people with disabilities are not the 'objects of inspiration'.
> > On 8/4/14, payal <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> This is a fascinating video posted on Ted talks and is of course
> >> available
> >> on youtube as well. However as some of us have had trouble being able to
> >> access it from Ted, I am posting a youtube link here as well. Take your
> >> pick. Stella young tries to bring home the truth that disability does
> not
> >> make us exceptional through this talk.
> >>
> >>  Stella Young: I'm not your inspiration, thank you very much
> >>
> >> http://t.co/zVZfvoGIYV
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> youtube link:
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K9Gg164Bsw
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  Stella Young is a comedian and journalist who happens to go about her
> >> day
> >> in a
> >>
> >> wheelchair - a fact that doesn't, she'd like to make clear,
> automatically
> >>
> >> turn her into a noble inspiration to all humanity. In this very funny
> > talk,
> >> Young breaks down society's habit of turning disabled people into
> >> "inspiration porn."
> >>
> >>
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