Firstly, we cannot expect a five year old kid to operate daisy player by him/herself. Some can do others cannot. Secondly, listening skills at the age of five are not much developed. So the kid is not going to understand all of what is taped. Thirdly, he/she is more prone to spelling difficulties. Fourthly, the daisy tools or any other technological methodologies are more expensive than braille reading and writing systems. Braille books, if printed at a large scale are cheaper than buying computers. Then the computer maintainence is another problem. Braille slate is cheaper then the said technologies. Many of the children would misuse computer instead of utilising its potentials. In the childhood, everyone does it. At no stage, primary level students shall be able to use the new technologies easily in comparison to braille. If we think that the visually impaired children should learn science and mathemetics, we should try to teach them braille first as it is going to benefit them while solving huge calculations. Calculator is not permissible in examinations. But we can advocate for abacus and braille slates for rough work. It is in this context that braille cannot be replaced.
-----Original Message----- From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bhavya shah Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 12:25 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in Braille Hi, I can imagine some situations where the Braille script would be more advantageous than assistive technology, but at this age, I haven't required Braille. I won't argue that Braille has 'no' relevance in the present day, because I feel that it may have some, but I am unclear of the following two statements, said by Venprakash Sir: 'Imagine if we try to impose computers and daisy tools to read books and for writing on to our primary level students, what is going to happen.!!!' I do not follow you, what will be the consequences? I recently met another visually impaired child studying in a mainstream school, who uses Braille as his means of studies, and is unwilling to switch to computers. He is financially capable, therefore he is able to get his books printed in Braille. Since his school teachers do not know Braille, he has a shadow teacher. I consider myself more fortunate than him for the means I use to study. Please clarify about the consequences of imposing computers and other assistive technology from the primary level to read and write. 'These technologies are useful only after we have undergone a specific level of studies.' If I follow you correctly, you mean that assistive technology can be used only after certain amount of training. If my interpretation is correct, then I feel you are wrong. I feel that anything can be used after productively only after a certain amount of training. This applies to assistive technology, Braille, and practically anything and everything else. Thanks. On 1/18/15, sanjay <[email protected]> wrote: > If one of you can volunteer, the purpose wil be served. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Avichal Bhatnagar > Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 9:18 PM > To: [email protected]; AccessIndia: a list for discussing > accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds > books in Braille > > I have been advocating for a braille noticeboard in my college for a > long time. > There is a large number of visually impaired students in the college, > and in most of the cases they do not get to take part in various > events taking place in and around the college just because the notices > are pasted in print. > A braille noticeboard would serve the purpose. > > On 1/17/15, Vedprakash <[email protected]> wrote: >> That would be a good initiative. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sanjay [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 5:58 PM >> To: [email protected]; 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing >> accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' >> Subject: RE: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds >> books > in >> Braille >> >> I agree with both of you. Apart from Braile books, our government >> should encourage the development of affordable Braile displays >> which may encourage pupils to learn Braile. >> Here is a startling news for those who believe Braile is an outdated > stuff. >> Forget Braile, typewriters which are outdated for all of us are >> reintroduced in Germany and some other countries' Government offices >> to write and preserve secret documents. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf >> Of Vedprakash >> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 5:15 PM >> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues > concerning >> the disabled.'; 'Shireen Irani' >> Subject: Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds >> books > in >> Braille >> >> Braille is the essential tool for us. >> It is a substitute for writing with pen and pencil. >> As a sighted person cannot stop using basic writing tools like pen >> and pencil, in the same way, Braille is the basic reading and writing >> system for us. >> Braille cannot be compared to any of the present technologies. >> Yes, we have been bennefitted with these technologies. No doubt. But >> that does not mean that Braille has no relevance with regard to our education. >> Imagine if we try to impose computers and daisy tools to read books >> and > for >> writing on to our primary level students, what is going to happen. >> These technologies are useful only after we have undergone a specific > level >> of studies. >> There are many more relevant features of braille which need not being >> discussed here. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf >> Of avinash shahi >> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 4:27 PM >> To: accessindia; Shireen Irani >> Subject: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books >> in Braille >> >> I do not think Braille is outdated as Mr Abidi quoted claiming in the >> article >> >> Better, those who have never ever used the fully developed script, >> and > lack >> will-power to learn; refrain from spreading rumour about Braille >> through media. This script is still relevant and needs to be >> preserved and promoted. Withstanding the tsunami in technological >> advancement worldover which serves few lucky ones, Braille is an >> equaliser for majority of blind people. 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