All Keeping the thread closed, may I add, it is also a duty for all of us to interact with the blind students, teachers on a regular basis and convey this message loud and clear that the negativity caused by cheating is far greater to us than the able bodied.
Harish Kotian -----Original Message----- From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Avichal Bhatnagar Sent: 20 March 2015 11:42 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired - Akanksha Mittal. The discussion has been a very fruitful one, with different opinions coming out. Now, I would like to put forward some points, which are based on my personal experience. I have seen many blind people who are capable enough to study and pass the exams with good marks, but they lack the will to do so. Hence, they rely heavily upon their writers, which is a great risk. Sometimes, they pay their writers double the amount sanctioned by the examination authority so that the writer comes fully prepared for the exam. I agree that computer exams can not be made compulsory at this time, but a better scruteny of the writer's background can help in preventing cheating to some extent. Sometimes, some people bring writers of a very high level and say that they are just twelfth pass. If a blind person is capable enough, then he/she will not cheat in the first place. And if he/she cheats, then that clearly means that he/she is totally incompetent for the exam. Acording to me, if a blind person is found cheating, then that person should be debarred from taking that examination for at least the next five years. If a sighted person is found cheating, it will be an insult only for him. Where as if a blind person is caught doing the same, the entire community gets stereotyped. Whether we accept it or not, but its the reality. On 3/20/15, Siddalingeshwar Ingalagi <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes Sir, I think, why the people cheat in exam, because, they have > loss their faith in system. and they have no hope in their life to > pass exam. When they experience about bad old insidents, they try to > implement in current exams. Their goal is just pass. So, for those > people, counsling is must require to do them best. And, in exam > system, also changes are must implement. by putting Cctv. > > On 3/19/15, bala9119 <[email protected]> wrote: >> What sighted does is off topic sir. we are not the representatives of >> sighted people's wrongdoings. lets talk about us rather than passing >> the buck. >> thank you. >> On 3/19/15, Siddalingeshwar Ingalagi <[email protected]> wrote: >>> so, is blinds only cheat in Exam hall? not Sighted people? They also >>> copy and cheat the Whole system. Example today Bihar state incident. >>> So, curruption is every field. Need to control before happening. >>> >>> On 3/19/15, avinash shahi <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> If we continue to debate this 2011 post appeared on youth ki avaz >>>> it has no end. >>>> >>>> Once this write up under discussion became public in the virtual >>>> world, it somehow bolstered the already rampant notion that >>>> sigeable number of blind people are nitwit. the argument about she >>>> sharing her experience on public platform is well-taken, however >>>> the ramification of piece on blind people is equally important to >>>> be discussed. I never claim in an absolute term that I'm an >>>> activist at all one could check the archive... It was just an >>>> effort as researcher to underline the salient features of her argument. >>>> One could differ in entirety. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 3/19/15, bala9119 <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> It seems to me that there is a greater gorge flowing between our >>>>> understanding of the post. first and foremost, the writer >>>>> described 2 of her own experience not to demean the visually >>>>> impaired but to propagate the significance of equal opportunities. >>>>> while we are ready to accept the appreciation from the outer world >>>>> (non-disabled), we must also be ready to intra-community >>>>> cleansing. undoubtedly the so-called whistleblowers of the >>>>> visually impaired deserves salute because they are the one who >>>>> stands empathetic while the so-called self-proclaimed activists >>>>> and the driving force of the future of the visually impaired stand >>>>> sympathetic in addressing the basic drawbacks. >>>>> I respect the argument on negative inhibition of the teachers on >>>>> the visually impaired though i personally disagree. "we get what we give." >>>>> its up to the visually impaired to break his or her back to dump >>>>> the false notion that prevails among the majority. its difficult, >>>>> but not impossible. its absolutely good to defend the malpractice >>>>> of the visually impaired under the circumstantial blockades, but >>>>> such defense proves that all the visually impaired are left with >>>>> no options but to malpractice. moreover, such notion would >>>>> contaminate the sincere visually impaired candidate who believes >>>>> in him or herself in the upliftment of the standard of living >>>>> instead of opting for shortcuts by citing the blockades. for >>>>> example, during my mains exam this year, one visually impaired >>>>> candidate has come from Bangalore. first paper whent on with >>>>> little hustle and bustle to him. from the second paper, he has >>>>> begun to target the woman who was writing. the invigilator found >>>>> this. now what we expect him to do to that unprepared aspirant at >>>>> that time? is it fair to expect the invigilator to consider the >>>>> aspects of reformation because the aspirant has no options? or the >>>>> invigilator should reprimand the aspirant. undoubtedly as a >>>>> co-aspirant, i will opt for reprimand which is what the >>>>> invigilator has done. because the aspirant's intention to indulge >>>>> in malpractice not only sends a wrong message to the sighted >>>>> invigilator, but it hurts me, who is a fellow community member cum >>>>> the prepared co-aspirant. while we expect dignified treatment, we >>>>> must do community cleansing to avoid being the burden to the >>>>> society. there is a long long way to achieve community cleanliness >>>>> and as is the dignified, equal treatment. lets not be >>>>> pseudo-libertarians, thank you. >>>>> -- >>>>> "It doesn't matter what we have, but it really matters what we do >>>>> with what we have." >>>>> >>>>> With Sincere Regards >>>>> >>>>> Balanagendran. 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