For the particular query, there was a wildcard ... in DAO an asterisk works properly, but when using ADO, the only acceptable wildcard is percent sign (%). Making that change gave the desired results.
I'd had that occur when using ASP to query an Access database online, but it just now occurred to me to try that on a desktop app. Bryant --- In [email protected], "Bryant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm familiar with all the benefits of MSDE. However, as I'd said, it > is not an option at this point to use any flavor of SQL, particularly > when DAO produces the proper values. > > Bryant > > --- In [email protected], "Roy Forkner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > In that case, put in MSDE. It is free and is a huge step up from Access. > > You can utilize stored procedures, security, etc., etc. And, keep Access > > as the front end. Life would be easier for all concerned that way. > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bryant > > Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 11:43 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Access VBA Central] Different results from DAO and ADO > > recordsets > > > > > > > > I won't argue that point. But better does not always equal affordable > > when your client is a struggling nonprofit -- considering the cost of > > implementation PLUS rewriting. > > > > One of the reasons to use ADO is for that day a y ear or so down the > > road when they're ready to make that step, thought I'd make it less of > > a financial burden spread out plus having other immediate benefits. > > > > Bryant > > > > --- In [email protected], "Roy Forkner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > That is what we run into here. However, we are moving a great many > > > tables to SQL and are trying to limit Access development. > > > > > > Showing how much faster, more secure, etc SQL Server is over Access > > has > > > changed some minds here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bryant > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 11:33 AM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [Access VBA Central] Different results from DAO and ADO > > > recordsets > > > > > > > > > > > > Because that's not a realistic scenario for the clients :) > > > > > > Bryant > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Roy Forkner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > Just a question; why don't you migrate the data to SQL Server and > > use > > > VB > > > > or VB.Net as the front end? > > > > > > > > Roy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bryant > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 10:46 AM > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: Re: [Access VBA Central] Different results from DAO and ADO > > > > recordsets > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I found out today that some users are still on Access 2000, when > > > > earlier I was told everyone was on 2003 ... guess that was too > > > > difficult of a question for them to answer (grrr). So for the things > > > > that ARE working in ADO, I have to make sure I set the right > > reference > > > > to ADO version, to make sure users of both version are able to open > > > > the database (several functions fire on opening). > > > > > > > > SO for right now I'm having to contend with that, and guess I'll > > worry > > > > about other things later as I have time. > > > > > > > > Thanks to one and all. > > > > > > > > Bryant > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "owen_group_profile" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > I still tend to use DAO instead of ADO, but I was wondering about > > > the > > > > > properties of the connection string: is it possible to get that > > > > > auto-generated, or does it all need to be typed out in full each > > > time? > > > > > > > > > > Also, if you've upgraded your MS Jet to 4.7, say, then will the > > > > > connection string still work if it reads '4.0', or do you need to > > > > > monify all the existing databases? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Owen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Bryant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > SQL generated in Debug.Print, when using DAO: > > > > > > > > > > > > SELECT LateFeesCharged FROM > > qselTransactions_LateFeesCharged > > > > > > WHERE CompanyID ='GMDC' AND TenantID ='BABET01' > > > > > > > > > > > > Pasting that into SQL design view of a query returns a row with > > > the > > > > > > proper LateFeesCharged amount. > > > > > > > > > > > > SQL generated in Debug.Print, when using ADO: > > > > > > > > > > > > SELECT LateFeesCharged FROM > > qselTransactions_LateFeesCharged > > > > > > WHERE CompanyID ='GMDC' AND TenantID ='BABET01' > > > > > > > > > > > > Pasting that into SQL design view of a query also returns a row > > > with > > > > > > the proper LateFeesCharged amount. > > > > > > > > > > > > Connection string in Debug.Print (cnn.ConnectionString): > > > > > > > > > > > > Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;User ID=Admin;Data > > > > > > Source=C:\tis\gmdc_tenants.mdb;Mode=Share Deny None;Extended > > > > > > Properties="";Jet OLEDB:System > > > > > > database=C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\System\SYSTEM.MDW;Jet > > OLEDB:Registry > > > > > > Path=Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Access\Jet\4.0;Jet > > > > OLEDB:Database > > > > > > Password="";Jet OLEDB:Engine Type=5;Jet OLEDB:Database Locking > > > > > > Mode=0;Jet OLEDB:Global Partial Bulk Ops=2;Jet OLEDB:Global Bulk > > > > > > Transactions=1;Jet OLEDB:New Database Password="";Jet > > OLEDB:Create > > > > > > System Database=False;Jet OLEDB:Encrypt Database=False;Jet > > > > OLEDB:Don't > > > > > > Copy Locale on Compact=False;Jet OLEDB:Compact Without Replica > > > > > > Repair=False;Jet OLEDB:SFP=False > > > > > > > > > > > > Connection string from Immediate Window, when entering > > > > > > ?CurrentProject.Connection: > > > > > > > > > > > > Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;User ID=Admin;Data > > > > > > Source=C:\tis\gmdc_tenants.mdb;Mode=Share Deny None;Extended > > > > > > Properties="";Jet OLEDB:System > > > > > > database=C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\System\SYSTEM.MDW;Jet > > OLEDB:Registry > > > > > > Path=Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Access\Jet\4.0;Jet > > > > OLEDB:Database > > > > > > Password="";Jet OLEDB:Engine Type=5;Jet OLEDB:Database Locking > > > > > > Mode=0;Jet OLEDB:Global Partial Bulk Ops=2;Jet OLEDB:Global Bulk > > > > > > Transactions=1;Jet OLEDB:New Database Password="";Jet > > OLEDB:Create > > > > > > System Database=False;Jet OLEDB:Encrypt Database=False;Jet > > > > OLEDB:Don't > > > > > > Copy Locale on Compact=False;Jet OLEDB:Compact Without Replica > > > > > > Repair=False;Jet OLEDB:SFP=False > > > > > > > > > > > > HTH, > > > > > > Bryant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Roy Forkner" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > What I am saying is when you do the debug,print command and > > copy > > > > and > > > > > > > paste to SQL design view, the wizard may be correcting space > > > > problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you posted directly from the debug.print I did not see it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I assume the connection is correct or you would most likely > > get > > > an > > > > > > > error. That said, I would do a debug.print on the > > > > > cnn.connectiontext and > > > > > > > make sure it is correct. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From my time (in hell) working with Access, I found that ADO > > was > > > > much > > > > > > > easier to use and always returned exactly what it asked for. > > If > > > > the > > > > > > > query is not formed correctly you will not get the correct > > > result. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You need to make sure that there are spaces, in the query, > > where > > > > there > > > > > > > should be spaces. Etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HTH, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Roy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bryant > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 3:32 PM > > > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Access VBA Central] Different results from DAO > > and > > > > ADO > > > > > > > recordsets > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My connection is set to CurrentProject.Connection: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Set cnn = CurrentProject.Connection > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure how that could be an issue, as no string is being > > > > > defined? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also not sure what you're wanting, in terms of seeing SQL, > > > > beyond what > > > > > > > I've already posted? I have entered a Debug.Print command, and > > > > > > > reviewed the SQL that is produced by concatening strSQL, and > > > > verified > > > > > > > that the SQL portion is identical when executed by DAO or ADO, > > > and > > > > > > > that when pasted into SQL design view of a query, it works. Is > > > > this > > > > > > > what you referred to? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FWIW I'm not doing ADO and DAO together. I'm moving my > > database > > > > code > > > > > > > to ADO, and it only makes sense to compare whether or not > > > > identical > > > > > > > outcomes are being produced by each, before giving my users a > > > live > > > > > > > front-end that doesn't work the same. At present I'm making an > > > ADO > > > > > > > version of existing DAO functions, comparing outcomes, and if > > it > > > > works > > > > > > > properly commenting out DAO. In 90% of the occasions, it's > > > worked > > > > > > > fantastic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to all who are contributing! > > > > > > > Bryant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Roy Forkner" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > If there is a record in DAO and not in ADO then there can > > only > > > > be a > > > > > > > > couple of things wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would define your connection string. Chances are it is not > > > > > correct. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would put a breakpoint and check what strSQL has as a > > value. > > > > Check > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > proper spacing, etc. In fact, can't you drop the strSQL in > > the > > > > > command > > > > > > > > window and see the real values of strSQL? Post it and maybe > > > > someone > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > see what is wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Finally, why are you doing ADO and DAO together? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Roy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > Bryant > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 2:43 PM > > > > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Access VBA Central] Different results from DAO > > > > and ADO > > > > > > > > recordsets > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This gives a "No current record" error -- cannot move > > > first/last > > > > > when > > > > > > > > there is no record retrieved. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The data, when correctly queried, produces a single record. > > > DAO > > > > > > > > produces this record, as does executing the query manually. > > > > ADO does > > > > > > > > not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bryant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Roy Forkner" > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Try : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rst.movelast > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rst.movefirst > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The same as the someone's suggestion except use ADO > > instead > > > > of DAO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > > Bryant > > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 2:24 PM > > > > > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Access VBA Central] Different results from > > DAO > > > > > and ADO > > > > > > > > > recordsets > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the semicolon tip -- it didn't work but that is > > > > > something > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > be careful to put in my code to avoid it being an issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The query runs fine in SQL view - and in DAO via code. > > > > That's what > > > > > > > > > makes it puzzling - lucky I have no hair to pull out :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bryant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Dennis Jensen > > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > For ADO try adjusting the last line as such... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > & "AND TenantID ='" & strTenantID & "';" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not sure if that will fix it but I have found that not > > > > > > > > > > including the ";" at the in when query an Access > > > > > > > > > > database can cause the query to fail. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The next best thing is to take a copy of the actual > > > > > > > > > > query being submitted via code and put that in a > > > > > > > > > > Queries SQL view and see if you can execute it. If it > > > > > > > > > > fails it might say why. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Bryant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I get two different results when querying the same > > > > > > > > > > > data, depending on > > > > > > > > > > > whether I use DAO 3.6 or ADO 2.1 recordset ... any > > > > > > > > > > > ideas where I'm > > > > > > > > > > > going astray? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The ADO recordset retrieves zero rows each time. The > > > > > > > > > > > SQL string is > > > > > > > > > > > valid, since results are produced via DAO. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Begin ADO -- > > > > > > > > > > > Dim rst As New ADODB.Recordset > > > > > > > > > > > Dim cnn As New ADODB.Connection > > > > > > > > > > > Dim strSQL As String > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Set cnn = CurrentProject.Connection > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > strSQL = "SELECT LateFeesCharged FROM > > > > > > > > > > > qselTransactions_LateFeesCharged " _ > > > > > > > > > > > & "WHERE CompanyID ='" & strCompanyID & "' " _ > > > > > > > > > > > & "AND TenantID ='" & strTenantID & "'" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rst.Open strSQL, cnn, adOpenStatic, adLockReadOnly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If Not rst.EOF Then > > > > > > > > > > > GetLateFeesCharged = rst!LateFeesCharged > > > > > > > > > > > Else > > > > > > > > > > > GetLateFeesCharged = 0 > > > > > > > > > > > End If > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rst.Close > > > > > > > > > > > -- End ADO -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Begin DAO -- > > > > > > > > > > > Dim rst As DAO.Recordset > > > > > > > > > > > Dim strSQL As String > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > strSQL = "SELECT LateFeesCharged FROM > > > > > > > > > > > qselTransactions_LateFeesCharged " _ > > > > > > > > > > > & "WHERE CompanyID ='" & strCompanyID & "' " _ > > > > > > > > > > > & "AND TenantID ='" & strTenantID & "'" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Set rst = CurrentDb.OpenRecordset(strSQL, > > > > > > > > > > > dbOpenDynaset, dbReadOnly) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If Not rst.EOF Then > > > > > > > > > > > GetLateFeesCharged_DAO = rst!LateFeesCharged > > > > > > > > > > > Else > > > > > > > > > > > GetLateFeesCharged_DAO = 0 > > > > > > > > > > > End If > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rst.Close > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- End DAO -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > > > > > > > > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > YAHOO! 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