There are 15 messages totalling 602 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. is it possible (2)
2. POP watcher
3. Problems with the ACCMail digest. (2)
4. www4mail and cookies
5. whats servers can fill out forms? (2)
6. FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics
7. OT: Mail problems (2)
8. PDF file
9. Web page hosting .
10. No messages after: ACCMAIL Digest - 26 Apr 1999 to 27 Apr 1999 (#1999-118)
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 11:23:33 -0400
From: mike fuller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: is it possible
to receive a list of all users
in an email address if we only know
the part after the @ sign?
can we send a command like this,
for example:
list-users @BGUMAIL.BGU.AC.IL
[example from a random address in today's mailing,
not important this one really]
they return a list like this, for example:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
etc...
thanks,
mike in havana
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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 22:19:45 +0200
From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Jaroslav_Such=E1nek?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: POP watcher
Helo Accmailers,
many thanks for your help with POP watcher. I have gor several good tips, who are
interested in this you saw them, but one of the best I have got personally, try it:
Avirmail for W95 from Switzerland at http://www.avir.ch
Bye Jarda Suchanek
Prague, Czech Republic
Central Europe
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 02:00:41 EDT
From: William C Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problems with the ACCMail digest.
Hello all,
Since Juno users are habing problems getting the digest and the
archives are also too large to be gotten from the LISTSERV, I
have a couple of questions.
1) Is it possible to set the LISTSERV to pop out a "special
edition" when the digest gets to say 60K, like on the
Help-Net list? I believe that the software is the same.
2) Is there a way other than the GET command for the LISTSERV
to get the archives? or is there an undocumented split
command?
William Andrews
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PS. will somebody contact me off-list that would be willing to
split and send the digest.
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 12:17:55 +0200
From: ONIME EHIMIKA OHIREIME <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: www4mail and cookies
www4mail has support for cookies.
At least it works on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] server. You could try
to see if you can access the site using [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Some site may not work not because of cookies but because they
(also) check for a certain HTTP REFERER HEADER which www4mail does not
provide.
Thanks
Clement Onime
Below is some more technical information on www4mail and cookies:
================================================================
The current implementation is that each user gets a unique cookie jar
(storage file) created out your e-mail address. All received cookies are
stored and read from that file. If you don't access the server in 1 month
then your cookie file is removed.
Note www4mail depends on the lynx browser to access URLs, that way
www4mail developers stay out of core web browser development.
The current version of lynx does not have support for storing cookies
when run in dump mode as used by www4mail. I requested the authors of lynx
to consider supporting cookies in dump mode. Well, I did not get a very
positive reply except that cookie storage is still experimental. However,
a modifed version of lynx (source code & binaries for Linux) that allows
cookie storage in dump mode is included with the www4mail source package.
A www4mail site administrator can turn off cookie file handling
just in case they choose not to compile or use our modified version of
lynx or based on some other site policy - example assume that each cookie
file grows to about 4k, then for 1000 users that means over 3 Megabytes
in space.
Well considering your idea of implementing cookies it's quite nice but
extremely simplistic and a bit in secure. I will explain:
cookies have three parts - a URL, a value and an optional expire time.
The URL could refer to a domain or sub domain (group of servers) or to a
particular server, sometimes one server sets cookies to be used by another
server, propagating cookies from e-mail to e-mail could be wasteful. The
value of the cookie could be any text up to a maximum of 4k so for a site
that sets 4 or 5 cookies that could mean up to 20k of extra text per mail.
Some people have to pay for each kilobyte of mail.
Generally Web servers do not ask for cookies, a web browser hands over
whatever cookies it thinks may be necessary.
Security - someone could write a 1k program to delete your files on the
server machine or even change or hack the cookies to mean something
different to the Web Server.
This technique will not work for GET or SEND or TSOURCE and other request
commands, as we only insert information into the www4mail modified
pages. The developers prefer to make features (especially one
like cookies) available to all commands and users.
As far as I remember [EMAIL PROTECTED] permits one to login
and read your yahoo mail by e-mail, due to the support for cookies.
Thanks
Clement Onime
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 12:36:20 +0300
From: Vlad Vork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: whats servers can fill out forms?
Hello
Tell me pls - whats FREE-servers can fill-out HTML-form?
or it`s impossible?
� �a�a�a�, Vlad.
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 11:29:29 +0100
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics
FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics for Sun 16 May 1999, posted Mon, 17 May 1999 10:27:47
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 11:09:28 -0400
From: Fanny Laguna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: OT: Mail problems
> Hi Accmailers,
>
> This question is a little off topic, but I dont know what else to do. So I
> decided to ask the "gurus" of email business: You :-).
>
> When I send a mail to some addresses, [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] between them, my message is sent back with the
> message
> 'Deferred: 451 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Sender domain must resolve'
>
> Nevertheless, other messages sent to other addresses abroad arrived very
> well. What is happening? What can I do to solve the problem? This is very
> important to me because I dont have direct access to Internet, and I must
> use Accmail techniques.
> Please, be as explicit as you can.
>
> Thanks a billion in advance, and forgive my English
> Yours
> Jorge
>
> PS: Send your answers to the list, or if you want to be more explicit, to
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> or <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 08:43:03 -0700
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PDF file
At 12:02 PM 5/16/99 +0800, xiong3 wrote the following:
>How to convert a word97 document to PDF file?
>Are there any softwares can edit PDF document?
I don't use Word and I really haven't converted any PDF documents, but
this web site has more PDF tools that I've seen anywhere:
The PDF Zone
http://www.pdfzone.com/
Document Conversion/Creation Tools
In addition to Adobe's Acrobat Capture software for converting paper
and electronic documents to PDF, a variety of freeware and commercial
software tools are available from third-party companies to provide
added functionality for creating PDFs.
http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolinfo_convert.asp
Extraction/Form Tools
The growing use of PDF-based forms, and the need to extract data from
PDF documents of all sorts, has spurred the creation of several
third-party tools that work with Adobe Reader and/or Exchange.
http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolinfo_extract.asp
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Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 09:33:20 -0700
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: is it possible
At 11:23 AM 5/17/99 -0400, mike fuller wrote the following:
>to receive a list of all users
>in an email address if we only know
>the part after the @ sign?
[...]
The command that I know that will do this is the finger command.
However, most ISPs have disabled the general finger command due to the
fact that a lot of spammers used it to get a list of userids at a site.
For instance, from my shell account:
gboyd>finger @netcom.com
[netcom.com]
General fingers are not supported, you must supply a username.
This command used to give me all the logged on users
User Real Name Idle TTY Host Console Location
[...]
gboyd Gerald E. Boyd r5 netcom23 (pas-ca-pm13.netc)
[...]
I now have to use rwho
gboyd>rwho
[...]
gboyd netcom8:ttypb May 17 08:21 :01
[...]
For a differenet slant on logged on users;
gboyd>ps -acgux | sort -n -r +4 | more
[...]
gboyd 29718 0.0 0.5 220 592 pb S 08:22 0:01 slirp
[...]
I don't know how to do any of these commands, except finger, by E-mail
methods.
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Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 19:41:01 +0300
From: Uzi Paz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problems with the ACCMail digest.
> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 02:00:41 EDT
> From: William C Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Hello all,
>
> Since Juno users are habing problems getting the digest and the
> archives are also too large to be gotten from the LISTSERV, I
> have a couple of questions.
>
> 1) Is it possible to set the LISTSERV to pop out a "special
> edition" when the digest gets to say 60K, like on the
> Help-Net list? I believe that the software is the same.
> 2) Is there a way other than the GET command for the LISTSERV
> to get the archives? or is there an undocumented split
> command?
There is a partially documented split command.
I compiled an explanation for Help-Net, but most of it (and this includes
the split command) should apply also to Accmail).
Get the documentation by sending a message to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following line as the BODY of your message:
GET HELP-NET.REFCARD
Uzi
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 10:38:11 -0700
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: whats servers can fill out forms?
At 12:36 PM 5/17/99 +0300, Vlad Vork wrote the following:
> Tell me pls - whats FREE-servers can fill-out HTML-form?
The www4mail servers...
Grab http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/1236/servers.html
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Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 10:56:57 -0700
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT: Mail problems
At 11:09 AM 5/17/99 -0400, Fanny Laguna wrote the following:
>> This question is a little off topic, but I dont know what else to
do. So I
>> decided to ask the "gurus" of email business: You :-).
>>
>> When I send a mail to some addresses, [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] between them, my message is sent back with
the
>> message
>> 'Deferred: 451 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Sender domain must
resolve'
For some strange reason the Cuban sites are not doing a very good job
of DNS resolutions.
gboyd>nslookup copextel.com.cu
Server: localhost
Address: 127.0.0.1
Name: copextel.com.cu
Hmm, no IP address.
gboyd>whois copextel.com.cu | more
No match for "COPEXTEL.COM.CU".
Hmm, another failure...
Let's try an assigned number lookup:
gboyd>whois -h whois.arin.net copextel.com.cu
No match for "COPEXTEL.COM.CU".
Good grief, another failure
Well let's try another whois
gboyd>whois -h whois.ripe.net copextel.com.cu
% No entries found for the selected source(s).
Yipes, another failure...
And so let's try another whois
gboyd>whois -h whois.apnic.net copextel.com.cu
% No entries found.
Well, there you go, this domain name is not in any of the DNS server
databases. No wonder you get that error message. Your ISP better get
with the program and get their resolver files updated to the COM.CU
domain.
gboyd>whois cu-dom | more
Registrant:
Cuba (Republic of) top-level domain (CU-DOM)
CENIAInternet
Industria y San Jose. Capitolio Nacional
La Habana, Cuba 10200
CU
Domain Name: CU
Administrative Contact:
CENIAInternet Administrative Contact (CA237-ORG)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
537-338065, 537-626565
Fax- 537-338237
Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
CENIAInternet Technical Contact (CT146-ORG) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
537-338065, 537-626565
Fax- 537-338237
[...]
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Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 22:47:06 +0600
From: Tasneem Khalil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Web page hosting .
Hi ,
Can anyone tell me how can I host my home page through off-line internet access ?
Tasneem Khalil
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 13:26:23 PDT
From: "Jerel D. Arbaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: No messages after: ACCMAIL Digest - 26 Apr 1999 to 27 Apr 1999
(#1999-118)
Is juno the only one not getting any digests from this list after ACCMAIL
Digest - 26 Apr 1999 to 27 Apr 1999 (#1999-118)?
Please respond off list, as I am not receiving digests!
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 14:08:55 -0700
From: "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: No messages after: ACCMAIL Digest - 26 Apr 1999 to 27 Apr 1999
(#1999-118)
At 01:26 PM 5/17/99 PDT, Jerel D. Arbaugh wrote the following:
>Is juno the only one not getting any digests from this list after ACCMAIL
>Digest - 26 Apr 1999 to 27 Apr 1999 (#1999-118)?
I cc'd Jerel but am posting it for others that might have the same
problem. It appears as though Juno users are the only ones affected, or
maybe I should say that all the mail I have received about missing
digests has been from Juno users. I can only guess that it has
something to do with 60k limit of mail or juno.com is having problems.
Now to find the archives at ACCMAIL, send mail as follows
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [leave blank]
Body: INDEX ACCMAIL
You will receive a listing that looks like:
*
* Archive files for the ACCMAIL list at LISTSERV.AOL.COM
* (weekly logs)
*
* filename filetype GET PUT size (bytes) date time
* -------- -------- --- --- ------------ ---------- --------
ACCMAIL LOG9801A LOG OWN 207,327 1998-01-08 00:34:02
ACCMAIL LOG9801B LOG OWN 148,605 1998-01-14 20:22:08
ACCMAIL LOG9801C LOG OWN 170,998 1998-01-21 16:19:28
ACCMAIL LOG9801D LOG OWN 114,176 1998-01-28 20:08:31
ACCMAIL LOG9801E LOG OWN 72,829 1998-01-31 21:58:23
ACCMAIL LOG9802A LOG OWN 244,819 1998-02-07 18:47:05
[...skip middle months for brevity...]
ACCMAIL LOG9903E LOG OWN 71,422 1999-03-31 19:55:30
ACCMAIL LOG9904A LOG OWN 257,025 1999-04-07 17:58:41
ACCMAIL LOG9904B LOG OWN 79,305 1999-04-14 14:19:48
ACCMAIL LOG9904C LOG OWN 178,271 1999-04-21 17:16:24
ACCMAIL LOG9904D LOG OWN 243,639 1999-04-28 15:52:37
ACCMAIL LOG9904E LOG OWN 63,091 1999-04-30 14:30:09
ACCMAIL LOG9905A LOG OWN 111,992 1999-05-07 16:26:54
ACCMAIL LOG9905B LOG OWN 249,817 1999-05-14 12:30:47
If you know that the missing mail is located between two dates, say May
10-11, then you would want to retrieve the log that ends after this
period. In this case, LOG9905B
To retrieve this archive, send e-mail as follows:
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [leave blank]
Body: GET ACCMAIL LOG9905B
To split very large files into manageable chunks, you can specify the
SPLIT=integer parameter. The integer value is the size you want the
chunks to be generated, in kilobytes. For instance if you were ordering
the 244,817 byte file above and wanted to break it into 60KB chunks, you
would specify SPLIT=60. This is handy for people whose mail systems
place a limit on the size of an individual mail message that may be
received by a given user.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [leave blank]
Body: GET ACCMAIL LOG9905B SPLIT=60
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Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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