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Topics of the day:

  1. WHERE DIY MAILING-LIST?
  2. FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics
  3. Server not Responding
  4. Offline newsservers (was Re: ACCMAIL Digest - 11 Jul 1999...)
  5. forms and GetWeb
  6. Firewall
  7. Talkway

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Date:    Tue, 17 Aug 1999 00:07:31 -0400
From:    JIAN SUN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: WHERE DIY MAILING-LIST?

Hello,

Could you give me some info about DIY mailing-list?

Thanks in advance.

 Jian

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Date:    Tue, 17 Aug 1999 06:01:20 +0100
From:    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics

FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics for Mon 16 Aug 1999, posted Tue, 17 Aug 1999 05:00:34 
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Response within 4 hours in at least 5 out of 7 recent tests

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Date:    Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:38:24 -0500
From:    Victor Orellano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Server not Responding

Can someone PLEASE tell me if the server [EMAIL PROTECTED]
is defunct.  I send it requests but it does not respond.  I
recently joined the ACCMAIL list.  Thank You.

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Date:    Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:32:57 +0200
From:    "Lena [Kiev.Ukraine]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Offline newsservers (was Re: ACCMAIL Digest - 11 Jul 1999...)

> Date:    Wed, 11 Aug 1999 11:13:52 -0700
> From:    "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >From:    Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >My ISP provides off-line news-server for usenets, but some of the
> >interesting conferences are absent there.

You can ask your ISP to include these newsgroups. Though my such
request was ignored...  Eventually I found mailing lists on
interesting for me themes and prefer them over newsgroups because
the "signal/noise ratio" in unmoderated mailing lists with moderated
subscription (and often even with unmoderated subscription) usually
is higher than in unmoderated newsgroups.

> >Are there free off-line news-servers with wide range of conferences?
>
> Some but not many. Grab these web page fpr a list of "free" NNTP servers:
> http://www.freenntp.com/complete.htm

Offline newsservers (they are called "Mail-News Gateways" in their
help-files) are not NNTP sevrers, but mailservers for access to
newsgroups  designed in USSR for accmailers. An user can subscribe to
some newsgroups, gets periodically list of new postings in these
newsgroups, can order postings from list, can post etc. - all via
e-mail. Many [former] USSR IPSs provide[d] offline newsservers for
their users. For example, my ISP has the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
offline newsserver, but it's now in fact defunct (doesn't get new
postings for months). Some offline newsservers in fact can be
used by another ISP's users for limited time (I suppose until
human administrator notices it and bans the user). Outside users
aren't banned by default because the RelCom network (first Soviet ISP)
is fee-based per Kb and ISPs can hope to collect fee from outside
users. When an offline newsserver's administrator requests fee from
an outside user via the user's ISP and the ISP refuses to bill its
users, the newsserver's administrator bans the user or the ISP.
Andrew, you can ask your friends for adrresses of their ISP's offline
newsservers and try to use them (send "help" in body), but don't be
surprised when an offline newsserver ceases to work for you.

I know of the only public access free offline newsserver:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> carries only the "medlux.*" hierarchy -
Russian-language medical newsgroups. Help-files of this and many
other offline newsservers are only in Russian.

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Date:    Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:29:08 -0700
From:    "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: forms and GetWeb

At 09:54 PM 8/16/99 +0430, Mohammad R. Arjomandi wrote the following:

>Can we return the forms with www4mail servers? (It seems only GetWeb
servers can return the forms correctly).

Yes. www4mail was developed to handle forms more in a manner of a web
page than a text document like Getweb. Each does the job just fine but
in a different manner.

>I think all of these servers (www4mail and GetWeb) can't accept
cookies, then why only GetWeb performs the task correctly?

Cookies are installed in a web browsers cache on the user's PC. Hence,
neither getweb or www4mail can handle a "cookie" buecause they do all
there work at the server level, not on your PC.

>For examle, as G. Boyd said, currently the only news server that can
be used by ACCMAILers is Mydeja, whose registration needs
>online access with a "cookies accept" browser. If there are a GetWeb
server, Can we get the registration form by www4mail server,
>fill it, and send it back to Mydeja using GetWeb?

No email server is yet made to handle a file that exists on your PC. A
cookie is in the browser's cache on your PC and email servers work
directly with the server, not your PC. So you can never find a getweb
or www4mail server that will handle a cookie.
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Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date:    Tue, 17 Aug 1999 21:17:40 +0100
From:    Duncan Torrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Firewall

Can someone please explain to me what a firewall is?

Thank you.

Duncan Torrie         [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED] or via
Accmail

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Date:    Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:12:37 -0500
From:    Lloyd Colston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Talkway

        Has anyone set up Talkway (http://www.talkway.com) for email
only?

        You can select your group and get an email about its contents.

        Let me know what you think.


Lloyd Colston           Excellence is not an accident
Pryor, OK USA           social worker, writer, editor
KC5FM Home page http://www.Lloyd.Colston.com/
      Journalism is literature in a hurry.

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