I had hoped to see responses to my email before now as well as an updated 
draft.  At this point, I have no intention of getting up in the middle of the 
night to make this call given that nothing on the draft has been happening

 

Jim

 

 

From: Ace [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kepeng Li
Sent: 23 January 2017 20:00
To: Kepeng Li <[email protected]>; Eliot Lear (elear) <[email protected]>
Cc: Michael StJohns <[email protected]>; [email protected]
Subject: [Ace] ACE virtual interim meeting on 9th Feb, GMT 14:00 ~ 15:00

 

Hello all,

 

According to the doodle poll results, we keep our conference call on 9th Feb, 
Thursday, GMT 14:00 ~ 15:00.

 

I will send the WebEx info later.

 

Kind Regards

Kepeng

 

发件人: Ace <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > on behalf of Li 
Kepeng <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
日期: Monday, 16 January 2017 at 9:55 PM
至: "Eliot Lear (elear)" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
抄送: Michael StJohns <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >, 
"[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> " <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
主题: Re: [Ace] Doodle for ACE virtual interim meeting

 

OK. 

 

I added two more options in the original doodle poll:

Option 5. 16th Feb, Thursday, GMT 14:00 ~ 15:00.

Option 6. 16th Feb, Thursday, GMT 15:00 ~ 15:59.

 

Please fill out the two additional doodle poll options:

http://doodle.com/poll/v6nbeggazekaq2ut

 

I will check the results at the end of this week.

 

Thanks,

Kind Regards

Kepeng

 

发件人: "Eliot Lear (elear)" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
日期: Saturday, 14 January 2017 at 8:00 PM
至: Li Kepeng <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
抄送: Michael StJohns <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >, 
"[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> " <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
主题: Re: [Ace] Doodle for ACE virtual interim meeting

 

I think at least one of the draft authors is away until the 8th.  Can we push 
out a week?

Eliot


On Jan 13, 2017, at 6:01 PM, Kepeng Li <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Oh, sorry, my mistake.

 

I made a mistake between you and Mike Jones.

 

Let’s change our call to Option 1, 9th Feb, Thursday, GMT 14:00 ~ 15:00.

 

I will send out the WebEx info later.

 

Kind Regards

Kepeng

 

发件人: Ace <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > on behalf of 
Michael StJohns <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
日期: Saturday, 14 January 2017 at 12:28 AM
至: <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
主题: Re: [Ace] Doodle for ACE virtual interim meeting

 

On 1/13/2017 4:44 AM, Kepeng Li wrote:

Hallo all,

 

According to the doodle poll, let’s have a call on 14th Feb, GMT 15:00 ~ 15:59.

 

We have the same amount of participants about Option 1, 2, and 4. 

 

Considering that Mike has strong position about this draft, so I accommodate 
his choice to allow him to participate.

Sorry what?   I'm assuming by "Mike" you mean me. I missed the original doodle 
call and haven't actually made a choice.  I can't actually make the 14th as I'm 
on a plane.

I can make either of the Thursday 9 February times though.

In any event, if the slides are ready ahead of time I'll just provide some 
commentary on the mailing list.   I note that the authors haven't engaged with 
the comments provided by Jim Schaad and it would be useful if they do so.

WRT to the document, its difficult to make any judgements or suggest any 
improvements without understanding the goals of the document.  As a bare 
minimum, up front the document should a) define "low latency" including each 
element that contributes to the calculation  (this has been a moving target - 
it was something like 250ms for DICE and appears to have moved downward in ACE) 
and b) define the security services that are to be provided when using the keys 
served up by this protocol.   (e.g. it currently appears that the document is 
proposing a key management scheme for group confidentiality, group integrity 
and group authentication).   Lastly, the document needs to include any other 
constraints.  In the instant case, low latency may be accomplished by hardware 
for public key operations - but there is a constraint never actually cited in 
the document - low/no cost for the build of the product (it's referred to 
obliquely as processing cost for the constrained device and is more properly 
attributed to the BOM).

If there is any other application besides lighting that has a use for this 
protocol - now is the time to bring it forward. 

Finally, a statement of security requirements for the exemplar application 
(lighting) should be provided so that the protocol can be evaluated against 
those requirements to see if we've actually managed to come up with something 
that meets the needs.

Mike





 

Authors, please prepare some slides for the discussion.

 

I will send the WebEx information later.

 

Thanks,

 

Kind Regards

Kepeng

 

发件人: Ace <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > on behalf of Li 
Kepeng <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
日期: Saturday, 7 January 2017 at 8:43 PM
至: ace <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
抄送: Kathleen Moriarty <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> >, Hannes Tschofenig 
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
主题: [Ace] Doodle for ACE virtual interim meeting

 

Hi all,

 

To speed up our progress on group communication security draft, we plan to have 
a virtual interim meeting in the middle of Feb.

 

I proposed four options for the meeting time:

1. 9th Feb, Thursday, GMT 14:00 ~ 15:00.

2. 9th Feb, Thursday, GMT 15:00 ~ 15:59.

3. 14th Feb, Tuesday, GMT 14:00 ~ 15:00.

4. 14th Feb, Tuesday, GMT 15:00 ~ 15:59.

 

Please indicate your available time from the doodle poll:

 <http://doodle.com/poll/v6nbeggazekaq2ut> 
http://doodle.com/poll/v6nbeggazekaq2ut

 

We will mainly discuss this draft:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-somaraju-ace-multicast/

 

Thanks,

 

Kind Regards

Kepeng 

 

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