Hello,
  few time ago Mr Andy Depue reply tomy message on how to use
acegi in a situation where the user does not log in, (for example in
the case in which a  background process - cron like - periodically
executes.
In this situation, how will i create a contextHoldert to associate it
with the call?
how will i create a 'default user' (from javacode) so that i can
safely call my code and being authorized by acegi?

any help?

thanx in advance and regards
 marco

On 6/10/05, Andy Depue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a very similar situation in my own application where our workflow
> engine can invoke (Acegi protected) service methods from a background task.
> This also arises when you are using JMS - your message receiver will execute
> without any user context, and yet often you need to call into service methods
> to handle the JMS message.  I'm not sure if this is the best approach, but in
> the case of our workflow engine, we created a specific workflow user.  In the
> case of JMS messages we encrypt the user's credentials into each message.  In
> the message handler we authenticate against those credentials for the
> duration of the message handler (the user is automatically unauthenticated
> once the message handler exits).
> 
>  - Andy
> 
> On Friday 10 June 2005 01:31 am, Marco Mistroni wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >  i have a webapp (spring-based) that is used to insert some entries in
> > a MYSQL database via a PersistenceManager.
> > I recently came across Acegi and i want to use it in my application,
> > so proper place in which put permissions will be PersistenceManager.
> > Thtere is however a small problem with that.
> > In my application, i am using Quartz job scheduler, and some of the
> > jobs scheduled use PersistenceManager in order to update my database
> > (yes, i am lazy, i have my code update the database for me
> > automatically)..
> > now, here is the challenge: normally, an user logs in and insert
> > entries in the database via webinterface, and so Acegi can
> > authenticate and authorize the user.
> > But when Quartz launches the Job that updates the database, user does
> > not need to log in since the job is fired automatically.
> > And in this case, i must skip authorization at all, since if a job has
> > been scheduled, that means that the user that did it (via the web
> > interface) had the rights to do that.
> > Thing is that if i user Acegi interceptor and apply it to
> > PersistenceManager, that interceptor will be invoked also from the
> > Quartz Job, since ultimately the Quartz Job calls PersistenceManager.
> > In my view i have two possible solutions:
> > 1 - since i can grab the user that scheduled the job, i can try to
> > 'authenticate' and authorize it via Acegi  since in my QuartzJob i can
> > get hold of Spring context
> > 2 - make so that when the Quartz Job invokes PersistenceManager, a
> > special user is used so that the operation on PersistenceManager is
> > allowed
> >
> > But i don't know the code to write for doing either 1 or 2.
> > anyone can help and give me suggestions?
> >
> > thanx in advance and regards
> >   marco
> 
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