> Am 04.11.2015 um 17:47 schrieb Pepi Zawodsky <[email protected]>:
> 
> Hoi!
> 
>> On 04 Nov 2015, at 17:23, James Davis <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I've encountered a few sites where manually switching to https://
>> produces a broken site, and others where every https:// request is
>> successful but immediately redirects to the http://
>> equivalent(presumably because it's thought more usable than a site
>> that's not working with a https:// URL), resulting in an insecure
>> connection even though the user typed https://.
> Redirecting from working HTTPS to HTTP is just stupid.

Which does not prevent major vendors of IT security solutions doing this.

> 
> Contact the site’s owner to stop actively posing harm to visitors with this 
> practice. Please start with Amazon! The correct way would be the other way 
> round and 301 all HTTP requests to HTTPS+HSTS(+preloading).
> 
> 
>> A holding page, with a "We're really sorry but this doesn't work,
>> click here to return to http://"; would be a more graceful way to
>> degrade the security of the site. Is guidance on that point useful?
> 
> Guidance is simpel:
> If there is working HTTPS, use it.
> If there isn’t working HTTPS, upgrade to it.
> Any other practice is insecure and poses a threat if not harm to visitors.

OTOH I saw claims that advertising links (W3C PING list IIRC) would not be 
working properly if the landing page is HTTPS. Some guidance on that would be 
helpful.


- Rainer
> 
> 
> Yes, I know it’s sometimes hard to convince site owners. See Amazon who is 
> still doing exactly that.
> 
> Best regards
> Pepi
> 
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