Roman, 

Can you give me a few names with who I can chat to find out more? 

Thank you

Linda

On 10/21/22, 12:38 PM, "Roman Danyliw" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Hi Linda!

    As I understand the scenario below, it would align to the work in this 
document only to the degree that the SD-WAN network would be an underlay to the 
DTN Bundle Protocol (via some as of yet undefined convergence layer) and the 
Virtual Network IDs would have an easy mapping to the DTN-specific addressing 
mechanism (Endpoint IDs per Section 4.2.5 of RFC9171).  I'll let the DTN 
experts correct me or provide more insight on the alignment.

    As an aside, there is a critical IANA issue with this document and it is 
being pulled from the planned telechat docket.

    Roman

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Linda Dunbar <[email protected]>
    > Sent: Friday, October 21, 2022 12:46 PM
    > To: Roman Danyliw <[email protected]>; [email protected]
    > Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; 
[email protected]
    > Subject: Re: Opsdir telechat review of draft-ietf-acme-dtnnodeid-10
    > 
    > Roman,
    > 
    > Can the mechanism specified in the draft be used to validate the Virtual
    > Network IDs of SD-WAN edge devices?
    > For example, an SDWAN edge deployed in a remote site, say a shopping mall,
    > might advertise the routes and client VPN IDs to the BGP Route-Reflector 
(RR).
    > The RR needs to validate the Client's IDs are legitimate. Can the 
mechanism
    > specified in the draft do the job?
    > 
    > Thanks, Linda
    > 
    > 
    > On 10/20/22, 10:36 PM, "Linda Dunbar" <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    > 
    >     Roman,
    > 
    >     With you bringing back the explanation, all makes sense to me now. 
Wish
    > your explanation is incorporated into the document.
    >     Thanks, Linda
    > 
    >     On 10/20/22, 6:53 PM, "Roman Danyliw" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > 
    >         Thanks for the re-review Linda.
    > 
    >         ACME WG: here is the thread from the IETF LC where proposed 
changes
    > were discussed:
    > https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmailarc
    > hive.ietf.org%2Farch%2Fmsg%2Flast-
    > call%2FnujBgHd6ZKHY6fG58ZWBKzFGVWs%2F&amp;data=05%7C01%7Clinda.
    > dunbar%40futurewei.com%7C3d47157879904a302e3008dab2f65009%7C0fee
    > 8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C0%7C638019068235813966%7CUn
    > known%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik
    > 1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=t83ICajIF%2FEIKz
    > ibHtGs0T9FFSQpSFmBxKdxxgGHkPY%3D&amp;reserved=0
    > 
    >         > -----Original Message-----
    >         > From: Linda Dunbar via Datatracker <[email protected]>
    >         > Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 6:55 PM
    >         > To: [email protected]
    >         > Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; last-
    > [email protected]
    >         > Subject: Opsdir telechat review of draft-ietf-acme-dtnnodeid-10
    >         >
    >         > Reviewer: Linda Dunbar
    >         > Review result: Has Issues
    >         >
    >         > I have reviewed this document as part of the Ops area 
directorate's
    > ongoing
    >         > effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the 
IESG.  These
    >         > comments were written primarily for the benefit of the Ops area
    > directors.
    >         > Document editors and WG chairs should treat these comments just 
like
    > any
    >         > other last call comments.
    >         >
    >         > This document specifies an extension to ACME protocol which 
allows an
    > ACME
    >         > server to validate the Delay-Tolerant Networking Node ID for an 
ACME
    > client.
    >         >
    >         > I had the following comments for the -07 version. I don't think 
the latest
    >         > version (-10) resolved my comments.
    >         >
    >         > Issues:
    >         >
    >         > The document didn't describe how the Node ID described in this
    > document is
    >         > related to the Delay Tolerant Network. I see the mechanism can 
be
    > equally
    >         > used in any network. What are the specifics related to the 
"Delay
    > Tolerant
    >         > Network"?
    >         > It would be helpful if the document adds a paragraph explaining 
the
    > specific
    >         > characteristics of the Delay-Tolerant Network that require the 
additional
    >         > parameters/types used for validating the Node-ID for an ACME 
client.
    >         >
    >         > Thank you,
    >         >
    >         > Linda Dunbar
    >         >
    > 
    > 


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