Hello Kathleen,

 

I reviewed this draft again, I think it is better to add a section for document 
signing certificate, not just mention it in the head.

 

CA/B Forum doesn’t have document signing certificate BR now that I am pushing 
this, it is very helpful in IETF WG to push this in ACME for document signing 
certificate, then all type certificates will support ACME, not just SSL/TLS 
certificate.

Thanks.

 

Best Regards



Richard Wang

 

From: Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.i...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Sunday, June 1, 2025 10:58 PM
To: rich...@zotrus.com
Cc: acme@ietf.org; i-d-annou...@ietf.org
Subject: [Acme] Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-acme-client-10.txt

 

Hello Richard,

 

I've changed the following text in the 2nd paragraph of the introduction in my 
working copy:

 

The core ACME protocol defined challenge types specific to web server 
certificates with the possibility to create extensions, or additional challenge 
types for other use cases and certificate types. Client certificates, such as 
end user, digital signature, and service authentication also benefit from 
automated management to ease the deployment and maintenance of these 
certificate types, thus the definition of this extension defining challenge 
types for end users and service accounts (e.g. cloud native containers, 
microservices). Use cases for of digital signatures are increasingly becoming 
foundational for integrity protection, origin authentication and data 
provenance including the following that may benefit from automating the 
certificate and key management for functions such as code signing, document 
signing (e.g. PDF), and format signing (e.g. JWT, SPDX).

 

 

Please let me know if this addresses your request.

 

Thank you,

Kathleen

 

On Sun, Jun 1, 2025 at 6:07 AM Kathleen Moriarty 
<kathleen.moriarty.i...@gmail.com <mailto:kathleen.moriarty.i...@gmail.com> > 
wrote:


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> On May 31, 2025, at 11:21 PM, rich...@zotrus.com <mailto:rich...@zotrus.com>  
> wrote:
> 
> This is a great move for client certificate (except S/MIME certificate) and 
> code signing certificate.
> I suggest adding Document signing certificate ACME support.
> Adobe required the document signing certificate must be securely stored in 
> HSM like code signing certificate, so we can use the same challenge types 
> here to document signing certificate, just need to add the statement that it 
> is appliable to Document Signing certificate.
> Thanks.
> 
Thank you for the feedback and support, Richard. 

I’ll add that into the text. Challenge types and certificate type are decoupled 
since you specify the certificate type in the CSR, so this is an easy 
informational addition.

Best regards,
Kathleen 

> Richard Wang
> 
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> Subject: [Acme] I-D Action: draft-ietf-acme-client-10.txt
> 
> Internet-Draft draft-ietf-acme-client-10.txt is now available. It is a work 
> item of the Automated Certificate Management Environment (ACME) WG of the 
> IETF.
> 
>   Title:   ACME End User Client and Code Signing Certificates
>   Author:  Kathleen M. Moriarty
>   Name:    draft-ietf-acme-client-10.txt
>   Pages:   16
>   Dates:   2025-05-28
> 
> Abstract:
> 
>   Automated Certificate Management Environment (ACME) core protocol
>   addresses the use case of web server certificates for TLS.  This
>   document extends the ACME protocol to support service account
>   authentication credentials, micro-service accounts credentials,
>   device client, and code signing certificates and keys.
> 
> The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-acme-client/
> 
> There is also an HTMLized version available at:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-acme-client-10
> 
> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-ietf-acme-client-10
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Kathleen

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