http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12994





--- Comment #3 from Maciej Piechotka <uzytkown...@gmail.com>  2009-04-01 
21:49:19 ---
(In reply to comment #1)
> It would be nice to know what "overheating very much" means (i.e. the output 
> of
> the thermal sensors), after all, that's highly subjective.

According to ACPI reading - around 89 C. About 70-80 C in idle. With fan on
full-speed (i.e. with manual controll) it tends to be 70 C.

I2C readings (shouldn't it be blacklisted on thinkpad - it is 'pulled' by
something in kernel so I have it even though I am awere of problems. Systems
boots as far) however as much lower - 44 C in the idle with full-speed (a bit
more with automatic mode). Anyway measuring 'by hand' the computer (the bottom
surface and near the 'fan') indicates it is hotter then it used to be a few
months ago and it is much cooler then in automatic mode.

> For example, I
> certainly like to keep my T43 a lot cooler than the firmware would make it if
> left to its own devices, so I run it at fan level 7 any time I am going to go
> hard on the CPU or GPU for more than 10 minutes.
> 

As far as I observed reported speed have nothing in common with fan speed
(measuring both noise and presure of wind). All measurement are made from the
default level unless stated otherwise.

> Anyway, in my experience, any IBM thinkpad that overheats (as in exceeds the
> hardware safety margins) when at full number-crunching mode typically is 
> either
> suffering a hardware problem, or operating at a _very_ hot place (above 35°C).
> 

It's beginning of spring here ;) The temperature is normal and it stands near
the middle of room with partially opened window. 

> Note that the hardware can, and will, operate at temperatures that are quite
> uncomfortable for your lap.
> 

It used to not. Anyway I tend to not use laptop as a... laptop. When I'm using
it as a mobile PC I tend to find a table (especially since they are near power
source) unless it is for so short it didnot have a time to heat.

> If it is a hardware problem, the two most common ones are: the fan is not 
> being
> able to blow enough air (due to dust),

My room tends to be a dutie place (good for alergic and asthmatic ;) ) -
however it changes depending on the changes of buildings neighbourhood. The
computer was cleaned before reporting and it shown little or no effect. The fan
could move without problem.

> or the thermal interface between the
> thermal sink assembly and the CPU and/or the GPU has cracked.  Both are easy 
> to
> fix.

No visible hardware problems (i.e. after taking off the case) was seen. 

(In reply to comment #2)
> I noticed now that the report implies we did better in earlier versions, so
> regardless of whether that thinkpad needs some hardware loving care, we will
> need to find out why we are not idling it right, if the submitter can confirm
> that going back to an earlier Linux kernel makes his machine behave better.
> 
> I doubt I can help with fixing any such issues, btw. It is not related to
> thinkpad-acpi.

I had no time to check on Windows and earlier version today (homework). Unless
something extraordinary will happen tomorrow I will check.

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