Thoughts that ran through my head ...

1.  Get a life!  :-)

2.  Make your membership terms attractive enough that members will not bother to share 
passwords.

3.  The stuff you're collecting will not tell you whether members are sharing 
passwords anyway.  IP addresses of machines change regularly (for dial up users at 
least) and there's no reason why a member shouldn't use more than one machine anyway.  
(On a regular basis I access the web from any of four machines at home, three of the 
same machines at work - but with different IP's because of a different ISP - and two 
other machines at work.  Different IP addresses - but same me.)

Dave S

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: jenksonu 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 8:15 AM
  Subject: Re: [ASP] Logging website visitor information


  Membership tracking
  To keep members from sharing passwords!
  I would like to get more information to catch members cheating.


  --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Shawn K. Hall" 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  > Hi Dennis,
  > 
  > > Useing ASP I'm already logging
  > > Time, Date, IP, Host, Browser information, Opp System
  > 
  > How about URL? And why not just parse the raw server logs?
  > 
  > 
  > > What else could be logged from a website visitor?
  > 
  > Ethically? I think you're going too far already.
  > 
  > What is the purpose of your logs and how will they be used?
  > 
  > I've seen it happen that people initially just start collecting
  > information that nobody really needs (like IP/Host/Browser/OS) then 
  it
  > gradually becomes a subversion of that information - STILL not 
  really
  > necessary - but collected and accounted beyond the needs of the
  > business and wasting resources to do it.
  > 
  > Seriously consider *why* you're collecting this information before 
  you
  > dedicate your resources (time, manpower, processor, disk space, and
  > ram) to it. Are you really wanting to have to provide completely
  > irrelevant reports to your boss (mind you most of that data can be
  > faked) from now 'til doomsday?
  > 
  > Regards,
  > 
  > Shawn K. Hall
  > http://ReliableAnswers.com/
  > 
  > '// ========================================================
  >    "The time has come," the Walrus said, "To talk of
  many
  >     things: Of shoes and ships and sealing wax, of cabbages
  >     and kings, and why the sea is boiling hot, and whether
  >     pigs have wings."
  >       -- Lewis Carroll


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