On 10.04.2012 14:41, Marco Martin wrote:
So for me the question is: in which cases would an (active) application
need some sort of icon highlight to awaken interest to the user? Would
it be in the thumbnail in the task switcher? Would it be in some sort of
global notification dialog?

i think notifications

+1.
Alerting in the task switcher does not seem to make sense to me since either, it's rarely visible. I'm fine with the central notification system which is already in place (although I think it could be refined, by e.g. cleaning old notifications up faster and allowing more rich interaction inside the notification popups possible). It works fine on the desktop so it should work fine in PA as well.

bangarang can be minimized in the systray for a desktop use: making it play a
list of mp3s being completely in the background, without cluttering the screen
or the taskbar. use case that is perfectly valind there, but i think not on
mobile.

I was just typing the same answer, but you were quicker ;)

I never meant to portray Banagarang as an example where a systray icon would make sense, because it isn't ;)

The only case where such an icon would make sense is if it visualizes a status which a user may want to monitor continually (in contrast to only being notified of specific changes). However, this would actually be a valid case for displaying the information in the task switcher thumbnail instead of the tray, so the user can just "peak" (here we are again! ;) whenever she wants to check it. For that, however, it would be necessary to display something that is better readable than the current thumbnails. What I think would be awesome is a way for an application to replace its thumbnail with a custom non-interactive QML or another kind of flexible enough visualization. Would that be possible?

Okay, so this is what I take from your replies (and what I support 100%):
- We keep the tray as it currently is in PA
- I write an HIG which tells devs to never ever use a systray icon on PA, let alone hide the whole application there. - We come up with a way to display information in a readable way in the task switcher - All kinds of notifications / alerts are displayed via the notification system. If developers need something which the notification system can't do, then the notification system has to be expanded.

Cheers,
Thomas
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