On 02.11.2012 13:37, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
On Friday, November 2, 2012 13:23:00 Wolfgang Romey wrote:
Hello,

I guess we can start discussing and schedule items soon, since nobody
seems
to be adding anything anymore. When is the scheduling/discussion session
planned?

Would Files be the right place to create new files and start the app, in
which i can work on it. Example: I create can creater a new .txt file and
kwrite opens?

Very good question, and one I've also been wrestling with :)

Basically, I think all this needs is a very simple application that lists the
kinds of things you can create. Then we can have a "Create" entry in Launch
which would open a window listing all the kinds of things you can create. This
list would probably best be built from sets of .desktop files that applications
can install specifically for this purpose.

This Create application would then launch the appropriate application with a
new document opened.

It would be very nice things like "Email" and "Event" could be in there as
well, which means being able to launch Kontact Touch with appropriate
parameters.

Even if that is not possible right away, we could start with things like text,
word processing, etc. files for which we have reasonable editor support.

This app should look harmonious with Files. However, it doesn't really need
the sidebar ... and even the top bar is probably unecessary. So I don't think
Files is the best application to add this functionality to.

The real big question is: how to show the various things you can create
without it becoming a giant mess of icons.

This is certainly one of the things which should be discussed during the "big picture design", as it is one central part of a task-centric system.

And for me, being able to e.g. write an email or add a contact or an event - or even visiting a website should be accessible via the same UI as creating a file. Users do not - and should not have to - care about applications or the difference between creating a file or a contact. They just want to get stuff done. For me, KRunner is already pretty far in that respect. It can already do lots of stuff, but hiding it behind a keyboard shortcut and hiding much of its functionality behind very specific keywords users have to remember currently makes it a "pro tool" rather than something average users use.

So I'd suggest that we use some time during the PA4 cycle to carefully design something like a "KRunner for everyone - and better" which we can implement in PA5 This requires a lot of effort, but if we get it right, we've made a big leap forward towards a task-centric system.
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