It should be removed. We have the same situation on our site in the past
and used the same article. We did a search on the AD later and found the
odd piece of data hanging around in AD which we tidied up.

Which domain controllers held which FSMO roles? Were any on the DC that you
have lost? Have you managed to transfer these to another DC?

Cheers,

Matt Duguid
Microsoft Systems Engineer
Information and Technology Group - Identity Services
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Hi,

We already had 3 Dcs in out network. Suddenly one Dc gone down permanently.
That wont come live back. Right now we want to remove that orphan dc
completely. I have seen Microsoft article



                                                                                
                                                       
 1.  Click Start, point to Programs, point to Accessories, and then click 
Command Prompt.                                              
                                                                                
                                                       
 2.  At the command prompt, type ntdsutil, and then press ENTER.                
                                                       
                                                                                
                                                       
 3.  Type metadata cleanup, and then press ENTER. Based on the options given, 
the administrator can perform the removal, but           
     additional configuration parameters must be specified before the removal 
can occur.                                               
                                                                                
                                                       
 4.  Type connections and press ENTER. This menu is used to connect to the 
specific server where the changes occur. If the currently   
     logged on user does not have administrative permissions, different 
credentials can be supplied by specifying the credentials to   
     use before making the connection. To do this, type set creds 
DomainNameUserNamePassword, and then press ENTER. For a null         
     password, type null for the password parameter.                            
                                                       
                                                                                
                                                       
 5.  Type connect to server servername, and then press ENTER. You should 
receive confirmation that the connection is successfully      
     established. If an error occurs, verify that the domain controller being 
used in the connection is available and the credentials  
     you supplied have administrative permissions on the server.                
                                                       
                                                                                
                                                       
     Note If you try to connect to the same server that you want to delete, 
when you try to delete the server that step 15 refers to,  
     you may receive the following error message:                               
                                                       
     Error 2094. The DSA Object cannot be deleted0x2094                         
                                                       
                                                                                
                                                       
 6.  Type quit, and then press ENTER. The Metadata Cleanup menu appears.        
                                                       
                                                                                
                                                       
 7.  Type select operation target and press ENTER.                              
                                                       
                                                                                
                                                       
 8.  Type list domains and press ENTER. A list of domains in the forest is 
displayed, each with an associated number.                  
                                                                                
                                                       
 9.  Type select domain number and press ENTER, where number is the number 
associated with the domain the server you are removing is a 
     member of. The domain you select is used to determine whether the server 
being removed is the last domain controller of that      
     domain.                                                                    
                                                       
                                                                                
                                                       
 10. Type list sites and press ENTER. A list of sites, each with an associated 
number, appears.                                        
                                                                                
                                                       
 11. Type select site number and press ENTER, where number is the number 
associated with the site the server you are removing is a     
     member of. You should receive a confirmation listing the site and domain 
you chose.                                               
                                                                                
                                                       
 12. Type list servers in site and press ENTER. A list of servers in the site, 
each with an associated number, is displayed.           
                                                                                
                                                       
 13. Type select server number, where number is the number associated with the 
server you want to remove. You receive a confirmation   
     listing the selected server, its Domain Name System (DNS) host name, and 
the location of the server's computer account you want   
     to remove.                                                                 
                                                       
                                                                                
                                                       
 14. Type quit and press ENTER. The Metadata Cleanup menu appears.              
                                                       
                                                                                
                                                       
 15. Type remove selected server and press ENTER. You should receive 
confirmation that the removal completed successfully. If you      
     receive the following error message, the NTDS Settings object may already 
be removed from Active Directory as the result of       
     another administrator removing the NTDS Settings object or replication of 
the successful removal of the object after running the  
     DCPROMO utility.                                                           
                                                       
     Error 8419 (0x20E3)                                                        
                                                       
     The DSA object could not be found                                          
                                                       
                                                                                
                                                       
                                                                                
                                                       
     Note You may also see this error when you try to bind to the domain 
controller that will be removed. Ntdsutil has to bind to a    
     domain controller other than the one that will be removed with metadata 
cleanup.                                                  
                                                                                
                                                       
 16. Type quit, and then press ENTER at each menu quit the Ntdsutil utility. 
You should receive confirmation that the connection       
     disconnected successfully.                                                 
                                                       
                                                                                
                                                       
 17. Remove the cname record in the _msdcs.root domain of forest zone in DNS. 
Assuming that DC will be reinstalled and re-promoted, a  
     new NTDS Settings object is created with a new GUID and a matching cname 
record in DNS. You do not want the DCs that exist to use 
     the old cname record.                                                      
                                                       
                                                                                
                                                       
     As best practice, you should delete the host name and other DNS records. 
If the lease time that remains on Dynamic Host           
     Configuration Protocol (DHCP) address assigned to offline server is 
exceeded then another client can obtain the IP address of the 
     problem DC.                                                                
                                                       
                                                                                
                                                       
 18. In the DNS console, use the DNS MMC to delete the A record in DNS. The A 
record is also known as the Host record. To delete the A 
     record, right-click the A record, and then click Delete. Also, delete the 
cname record in the _msdcs container. To do this,       
     expand the _msdcs container, right-click cname, and then click Delete.     
                                                       
                                                                                
                                                       
     Important If this is a DNS server, remove the reference to this DC under 
the Name Servers tab. To do this, in the DNS console,    
     click the domain name under Forward Lookup Zones, and then remove this 
server from the Name Servers tab.                          
                                                                                
                                                       
     Note If you have reverse lookup zones, also remove the server from these 
zones.                                                   
                                                                                
                                                       
 19. If the deleted computer is the last domain controller in a child domain, 
and the child domain was also deleted, use ADSIEdit to   
     delete the trustDomain object for the child. To do this, follow these 
steps:                                                      
                                                                                
                                                       
                                                                                
                                                       
                                                                                
                                                       
                                                                                
                                                       
                                                                                
                                                       
     a.                                                                         
                                                       
       Click Start, click Run, type adsiedit.msc, and then click OK             
                                                       
     b.                                                                         
                                                       
       Expand the Domain NC container.                                          
                                                       
     c.                                                                         
                                                       
       Expand DC=Your Domain, DC=COM, PRI, LOCAL, NET.                          
                                                       
     d.                                                                         
                                                       
       Expand CN=System.                                                        
                                                       
     e.                                                                         
                                                       
       Right-click the Trust Domain object, and then click Delete.              
                                                       
                                                                                
                                                       
                                                                                
                                                       
 20. Use Active Directory Sites and Services to remove the domain controller. 
To do this, follow these steps:                          
                                                                                
                                                       
                                                                                
                                                       
                                                                                
                                                       
                                                                                
                                                       
                                                                                
                                                       
     a.                                                                         
                                                       
       Start Active Directory Sites and Services.                               
                                                       
     b.                                                                         
                                                       
       Expand Sites.                                                            
                                                       
     c.                                                                         
                                                       
       Expand the server's site. The default site is Default-First-Site-Name.   
                                                       
     d.                                                                         
                                                       
       Expand Server.                                                           
                                                       
     e.                                                                         
                                                       
       Right-click the domain controller, and then click Delete.                
                                                       
                                                                                
                                                       
                                                                                
                                                       




I have connected to one of my live Dc using ntds util and deleted the
orphan Dc. It shows the message that orphan dc was removed from the current
dc.

Is it completely removed or should I need to do the same process on the
other also.

Regards,

Senthil


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