Ken asks: > Or are you just saying go with > a name totally unrealted and stick with it as you grow?
That's right (well : what I was advocating as an option, anyhow). The advantage is that you'd be able to have a 2 DC/GC environment using the 2 nice servers you have approval for, and not have to do anything when/if the company changes name. You'd also only have one domain to back up, and fewer potential points of failure. I don't know if you're putting planning on putting Exhange in the domain now or in the future. If you are then a name change/migration becomes a bit more of a hassle and increases the incentive to not have to change it. All the best, Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Rinehart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 8:25 PM Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DC placement in AD > Tony > > So I'm OK with going with name that is unrelated to the org but I'm > unclear on what advantage this gives me. Or are you just saying go with > a name totally unrealted and stick with it as you grow? Our DNS is > external (split) so that isn't an issue. DNS is just for internal hosts > everything external is passed on to the ISP. > > Ken > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tony Murray > Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 10:04 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DC placement in AD > > > Hi Ken > > Sorry for not being clear. > > I don't think having 4 DCs (2 domains) for an organisation of 20 users > makes very much sense - but is an option :-). > > If you decide to have one domain (2 DCs) and to name it in line with > your company name then you may wish to change this later. At present > there is no way to rename Active Directory domains (.Net Server gives > you more flexibility), so if you wanted to change the name you would > need to build a parallel forest with the new name and migrate your users > from the old to the new. > > To migrate to the new forest, you need not go to the expense of buying 2 > new DCs. Simply demote one of your current DCs and remove it from the > forest. Create the new forest from the this (now spare) server and > begin the migration. With 20 users you should be able to do this over a > weekend, so you needn't worry about having just one DC during the > migration. > > The alternative is to choose a name totally unrelated to your current > organization. As long as you can live with this then you should not > need to migrate when the company name changes. > > Tony > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ken Rinehart > Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 5:55 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DC placement in AD > > > > Tony > > Ah so your saying 2 DCs for each tree in a forest correct? This makes > sense I'm just making sure I understand. If that's the case then your > comment "it will not kill you to migrate 20 users" means what? Migrate > to where? I think that's really my only issue is the name change, that > was the reason for the original "empty root" domain. Are you saying > create a new domain in a new forest (this becomes the forest root) > create my users, DCs etc.... then when the name change occurs create a > new domain tree (which at that point would mean 2 more DCs)? > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tony Murray > Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 8:55 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DC placement in AD > > > Hi Ken > > Personally, I wouldn't have a domain with just one DC. This applies > especially to the root domain which houses the Enterprise Administrators > and Schema Administrators groups. Even with backups a single DC > represents an unaccepable risk. Also, in terms of business continuity a > single DC per domain is a single point of failure. > > If you can't afford the luxury of 4 DCs (which for 20 users looks like > overkill) I would stay with just one domain. If the company changes > name in the future it will not kill you to migrate 20 users. > > Good idea to make them both GCs. > > Tony > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ken Rinehart > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 11:42 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [ActiveDir] DC placement in AD > > > > > I have a small office network I've been designing and just need a few > "tips" before I go through the actual setup. The company has agreed to > buy 2 nice servers to act as DCs for a small office network of 20 > people. There is talk of a company name change at somepoint so my > thoughts were to do an "empty root" then create my main domain tree that > all users will login to. Done. Eventually when the time comes I'd just > create a new domain tree with the new company name and move the accounts > over. This seem logical? > > I guess my question is will 2 DCs be OK for now? I'd just make them > both GC servers also. I'm trying to get a better understanding of where > to put DCs in the scheme of things. One DC per domain tree or what? > > Thanks in advance > > Ken- > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
