While on the topic of distributions lists from 5.5 to 2000, there is one
other support related issue that IMO is worth mentioning. Assigning "Manage"
permissions to Universal Security groups aka distribution lists. In exchange
5.5 theres a nice clean GUI to give a user the ability to add/remove names
from a distribution list. In Exchange 2000 the "Managed by" tab on a group
is "informational only" according to
<http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;Q281489&;> You cant
use it to give a user manage permissions to the group. You have to give the
user some pretty specific advanced permissions to allow them to manage a
group. 

I will admit though that being able to give a user/group permission to
change the membership of another group without 3rd party software is a
pretty nice thing.

Clyde Burns


-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 10:58 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange 5.5 upgrade to 2000


Not just public folders! If you use distribution lists to assign security to
*any* Exchange resource (calendars, inbox, etc.), it will not work in mixed
mode AD.

The good news is that (as Clyde suggests) you can use another AD domain to
host the USGs.

The bad news is that since global catalogs have read-only copies[1] of
groups from other domains, your users can no longer maintain DL membership
from Outlook.

Since this is exactly what we are doing, I had to develop a web based app[2]
to allow users to maintain DLs after they are migrated to E2K mailboxes.
Microsoft also has a freebie DL maintenance tool called AutoDL (or some
such...) that has quite a bit of capabilities.

[1] Not quite 100% true, but close enough for this discussion.
[2] Written in Perl - I'd be happy to share with anyone who needs such a
beast.

-----Original Message-----
From: Burns, Clyde [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 8:03 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange 5.5 upgrade to 2000


Jennifer, another thing to think about migrating from Exchange 5.5 to
Exchange 2000. One of the caviats that you are going to run into is
distribution lists in your Windows 2000 mixed mode domain (or lack of). The
ADC creates Universal Security groups in windows 2000 from distributions
lists in Exchange 5.5. These type of groups arent available in w2k
mixed-mode. Which can cause havok on public folders IF you use distribution
lists to give/restrict access to public folders.

<http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q316886&sd=tech> is
a good jumping off point to read about this. In your case of not being able
to go native in w2k you may have to setup a temporary native mode child
domain for your distribution lists to live in.

Clyde Burns

-----Original Message-----
From: Craig Cerino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 2:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange 5.5 upgrade to 2000


Jennifer - you can do what you need right now.

When one of our satellite offices was still in mixed mode they were
running Exchange 5.0 on and NT4.0 box. This box was also a BDC (formerly
the PDC until AD servers were introduced.

I recommend you upgrade your 5.5 box to SP6 (if it's not already there.)
Set up an ADC between the Exchange 5.5 box and one of your AD DC's and
allow replication to begin.

Then when you are ready --- install a separate (preferably new/clean
box) Win 2K Exch 2K server into that exchange site (remembering to run
setup with the /ForestPrep and DomainPrep switches separately) - migrate
your mailboxes over to the 2K box decommission the 5.5 box ---- and
switch to Exchange Native Mode (which is different than Win2K [AD]
NATIVE MODE).

Then when you are sure you have no remaining NT 4.0 domain controllers
--- switch to Windows 2000 Native Mode.


Craig  



Craig P. Cerino
MCSE, MCP+I
Systems Administrator
TIE SOLUTIONS, Inc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.tiesolutions.com
 


-----Original Message-----
From: Jennifer Fountain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 2:07 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: [ActiveDir] Exchange 5.5 upgrade to 2000

We are currently in mixed mode and cannot switch to native.  We
currently
have e5.5 and plan to upgrade to e2k next month.   (since we aren't in
native, we can't do a migrations using the adc - right?) can i setup my
new
exchange server (offline) with w2k and e5.5 and then upgrade to 2000
then
take down the production 5.5 and put the new 2k box into production?
any gotchas? can i do this? thanks!!



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