Ack!  Should have looked up a message or two.

Well, I'm out of suggestions.  But, I still know you don't need RADIUS
or IAS for what you're doing.  You'd know if you needed it - because
your entire authentication strategy would be built around it.  IOW - it
would be dictated and your user's ISP's would be using it and proxying
for you.  Which, considering you've mentioned nothing about it, I
surmise that they aren't.

Rick Kingslan - Microsoft MVP [Windows NT/2000]
  Microsoft Certified Trainer
  MCSA, MCSE+I - Windows NT / 2000
  
"Any sufficiently advanced technology
is indistinguishable from magic."
  ---  Arthur C. Clarke





> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@;mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of 
> Salandra, Justin
> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 8:53 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] RAS
> 
> 
> Also look at this Q Article, I did this and it did not help
> 
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;Q227747&;
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Salandra, Justin A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:28 PM
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] RAS
> 
> 
> > Here look at these
> >
> > Event Type: Warning
> > Event Source: RemoteAccess
> > Event Category: None
> > Event ID: 20187
> > Date: 10/30/2002
> > Time: 4:24:51 PM
> > User: N/A
> > Computer: CHCS56KRAS
> > Description:
> > The user jlevine failed an authentication attempt due to 
> the following
> > reason: There was an authentication failure because of an 
> unknown user
> name
> > or a bad password.
> >
> > Event Type: Error
> > Event Source: RemoteAccess
> > Event Category: None
> > Event ID: 20073
> > Date: 10/30/2002
> > Time: 4:25:06 PM
> > User: N/A
> > Computer: CHCS56KRAS
> > Description:
> > The following error occurred in the Point to Point Protocol 
> module on
> port:
> > COM4, UserName: CRNH\jlevine. The authentication server did not 
> > respond to authentication requests in a timely fashion.
> > Data:
> > 0000: a2 03 00 00               c...
> >
> > Event Type: Warning
> > Event Source: RemoteAccess
> > Event Category: None
> > Event ID: 20014
> > Date: 10/30/2002
> > Time: 4:23:52 PM
> > User: N/A
> > Computer: CHCS56KRAS
> > Description:
> > The user JCostello has connected and failed to authenticate on port 
> > COM4. The line has been disconnected.
> >
> > I have verified that all these users have the dial in 
> property set and
> that
> > their passwords are correct.
> >
> > Justin
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rick Kingslan [mailto:rkingsla@;cox.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 6:45 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] RAS
> >
> >
> > Justin,
> >
> > Please re-read the Q article that you cited.  This makes 
> the distinct 
> > statement that you are already using IAS (Microsoft Internet 
> > Authentication Service), so this has nothing to do with the problem 
> > that you're experiencing.
> >
> > Unless, however, you are using IAS on your RAS server to set up 
> > authentication / auditing.
> >
> > And, you should NOT have to set up RADIUS, IAS or any other complex 
> > mechanisms to allow users to access the child domain if they are 
> > authenticating to the parent, WAN or not.  Linton is absolutely 
> > correct in his statements.
> >
> > Clearly there is another problem here, and it has nothing 
> to do with 
> > RADIUS or IAS.  What else do you have in the event logs of the RAS 
> > server that might help?
> >
> > Rick Kingslan - Microsoft MVP [Windows NT/2000]
> >   Microsoft Certified Trainer
> >   MCSA, MCSE+I - Windows NT / 2000
> >
> > "Any sufficiently advanced technology
> > is indistinguishable from magic."
> >   ---  Arthur C. Clarke
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@;mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of 
> Salandra, 
> > > Justin A.
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 5:09 PM
> > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] RAS
> > >
> > >
> > > I am getting a error message that says Error 930; The 
> Authentication 
> > > Server Did Not Respond to Authentication Requests in a Timely 
> > > Fashion
> > >
> > > According to this error message on this Q article Q299684 - Error 
> > > Message: Error 930; The Authentication Server Did Not Respond to 
> > > Authentication Requests in a Timely Fashion they say to setup 
> > > RADIUS, do I need to do that? Does anyone know how to configure a 
> > > RADIUS Server so that it will authenticate users in a 
> child domain 
> > > in the child domain and the rest of the users against the parent 
> > > domain?  -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Linton Smith (WBTQ) [mailto:GWLLES@;Weston.ca]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 6:00 PM
> > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] RAS
> > >
> > > That's why I'm suggesting you put a DC for the child 
> domain in the 
> > > site with the RAS server in it.  Otherwise, the authentication 
> > > traffic will have to go over the WAN.  For a RAS user, the 
> > > performance hit may be negligible given that his 
> connection speed is 
> > > probably less than available on the WAN link, but there are other 
> > > considerations as well - i.e. what resources will the 
> dialed-in user 
> > > be accessing, and where will they be located?  How many 
> concurrent 
> > > RAS users do you wish to support?
> > >
> > > All of this will work (assuming DNS is working properly) 
> over a WAN 
> > > without a DC or the accessed resources being in the same 
> site as the 
> > > RAS server, but performance may be constrained by available 
> > > bandwidth on the WAN link.  You can eliminate the authentication 
> > > traffic from the WAN if there is a local DC for the child 
> domain in 
> > > the site with the RAS server.
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > >
> > > Linton
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:jasalandra@;chcsnet.org]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 5:35 PM
> > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] RAS
> > >
> > >
> > > But the RAS server and the Child Domain are separated by 
> a WAN Link
> > >
> > >  -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Linton Smith (WBTQ) [mailto:GWLLES@;Weston.ca]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 5:28 PM
> > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] RAS
> > >
> > > Yes, but you will want to have a DC for the child domain 
> in the same 
> > > site as the RAS server to ensure rapid authentication.
> > >
> > > Linton
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:jasalandra@;chcsnet.org]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 5:09 PM
> > > To: ActiveDir (E-mail)
> > > Subject: [ActiveDir] RAS
> > >
> > >
> > > If I have a domain tree with a RAS Server in the Parent, 
> can a user 
> > > dial in to that RAS server and login as a user in the 
> child domain?
> > >
> > > Justin A. Salandra, MCSE
> > > Senior Network Engineer
> > > Catholic Healthcare System
> > > 914.681.8117 office
> > > 646.483.3325 cell
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:jasalandra@;chcsnet.org>
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