Check out eQ by Heroix (www.heroix.com) Bloody good product, bloody
excellent support and a fraction of the prce of its bloated competitiors.

Mark Abbiss

-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad@;inovis.com]
Sent: Montag, 11. November 2002 15:01
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Monitoring AD


Do you actually *read* posts before pimping Sunbelt products?

> Well, MOM's out as our mandate is to have a monitoring product that is
> cross platform (we also have various flavors of UNIX and some 
> big iron).

To hit this kind of scope, you have to look at probably BMC Patrol, HP
OpenView, Tivoli TME or CompAss Unicenter. I don't believe that NetIQ can
cover mainframes, although last I checked they do cover some Unix stuff.

I'd agree, however, that just straight ping testing isn't enough for most
environments.

------------------------------------------------------
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -----Original Message-----
> From: David N. Precht [mailto:discussions@;entrysecurity.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 10:02 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Monitoring AD
> 
> 
> http://www.sunbelt-software.com/search_category.cfm#ADI
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@;mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Mike Baudino
> Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 09:52
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [ActiveDir] Monitoring AD
> 
> 
> All,
> 
> I've been asked recently to come up with monitoring 
> requirements for an
> upcoming AD deployment to roughly 120 offices, all of which will be
> individual sites.  I don't have experience (yet) with AD this size.
> Vendor whitepapers are little more than thinly disguised salespitches.
> Those companies that offer monitoring products for AD state that it's
> essential and, oh, by the way, we happen to have just the product for
> you.  I'm not really able to get a clear picture of how critical it is
> to actively monitor AD and how granular you need to be.
> 
> One company I spoke with said that it's sufficient to monitor DNS and
> DHCP and they will tell you if anything's up.  I don't buy that, other
> than I believe that availability of DNS and verifying that dynamic
> update is working and that the DC's are registering, etc.  Another
> company states that you need very granular monitoring complete with
> custom scripts, automated tasks, and alerts.  Microsoft says 
> that all we
> need is MOM.
> 
> Well, MOM's out as our mandate is to have a monitoring product that is
> cross platform (we also have various flavors of UNIX and some 
> big iron).
> Our current product is from the first company I mentioned in the
> previous paragraph.
> 
> I believe the truth is somewhere between the two companies.  
> I'm looking
> for suggestions based on practical experience though.  Anyone want to
> share?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> MIke
> 
> 
> 
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