Dave, thanks for the sanity check !

That was my understanding.

Would be VERY interested in knowing how this works - as we know and Roger
has alluded to this - NT4 is not "directory aware" and cant get this
attribute of the user account from a query of the directory ??

i would guess one of the undocumented features of a "native mode" domain

as a slight aside this has always been one of the greatest mysteries of AD
to me - how such a significant change (ie no rollback) has so little
documentation - we know things like no replication to BDC's, universal
groups and the like but there MUST be more to it than that ??!!

GT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thornley, Dave H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 9:07 AM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Migration tools and AD


> As I understand it SIDHistory entries are added to the access token in the
same way that group membership SIDs are, client version isn't an
> issue.
>
> dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 03 December 2002 12:54
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Migration tools and AD
>
>
> I don't follow your question - NT4 has no concept of SID history in the
access tokens, unless I presume the ADClient has been installed. NT4
> tokens don't handle multiple user SIDs.
>
> Roger
> ------------------------------------------------------
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
> Atlanta, GA
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Graham Turner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 7:43 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Migration tools and AD
> >
> >
> > but interestingly enough the NT 4 workstation is obviously
> > SIDHISTORY aware
> > in its construction of the access token ???
> >
> > any takers yet on how DMW actually works ?? - i guess it must
> > undergo an
> > exercise of duplication of all of the references of the
> > source user domain
> > with an identical reference to the target domain ???
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Roger Seielstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 12:40 PM
> > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Migration tools and AD
> >
> >
> > > While you're technically correct, native mode still makes a
> > difference.
> > >
> > > Downlevel (i.e. NT4) domain controllers don't understand
> > SID history - one
> > > account, one SID. Therefore, it is more correct to say that
> > while the
> > > migration tool doesn't care, the SID history functionality
> > won't work
> > > correctly without being in native mode.
> > >
> > > Roger
> > > ------------------------------------------------------
> > > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> > > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > > Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
> > > Atlanta, GA
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Weston Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 4:58 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Migration tools and AD
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Not true, although I don't know what the requirements of the Quest
> > > > software are, I know DMW doesn't care about modes.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Weston Rogers
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > 800.849.5147 x255
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Graham Turner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 4:50 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Migration tools and AD
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > is the target domain in native mode ??
> > > >
> > > > understood to be mandatory for the sidhistory attribute
> > > >
> > > > GT
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Pelle, Joe
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 9:15 PM
> > > > Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Migration tools and AD
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hello there!
> > > > I'd like to know if anyone has had any experience using Quest
> > > > migration tools?  If so, I am having some specific issues
> > > > migrating
> > > > SIDHistory:  I
> > > > am unable to move the SID history from my NT domain to my new AD
> > > > structure.  I am successful migrating the user(s) but unable to
> > > > get the SID to come with them!
> > > > Quest suggests that I have SP2 installed for 128bit
> > encryption when
> > > > migrating SIDHistory from client to server.  I have SP3 already...
> > > > Any suggestions?! Thanks!
> > > > Joe Pelle
> > > > Systems Administrator
> > > > Information Technology
> > > > Valassis / Targeted Print & Media Solutions
> > > > 35955 Schoolcraft Rd.   Livonia, MI  48150
> > > > Tel 734.632.3753      Fax 734.632.6240
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > http://www.valassis.com/
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