I looked at doing an NT4 domain split that way, and decided against it, as
there would be quite a bit of garbage collection to go on.

Really - the migration is going to be the cleanest split.

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Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe.Baird [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 8:45 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Separating an Active Directory Forest
> 
> 
> Rick, what they are trying to mimic is to other company 
> completely burning
> to the ground so to speak.  They are going to cut the WAN 
> connection and
> then pretend that the other DCs no longer exist.  Meaning 
> they go into a
> disaster recovery mode by seizing all of the roles and begin 
> the metadata
> cleanup.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick Kingslan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:26 PM
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Separating an Active Directory Forest
> 
> 
> > Joe,
> >
> > IMHO and experience, wish them good luck.  The reason why 
> there must be
> > a migration for one group or the other is because someone 
> has to own the
> > original forest.  You cannot just BOTH seize the Schema and Domain
> > Naming FSMO roles to the respective 'new root', as it can 
> only be held
> > by one or the other.
> >
> > With the current tools, I can't even imagine this being successful -
> > without a migration of new Company B's computers, users, and groups
> > (plus all of the ancillary stuff) to a new forest.
> >
> > Ack!
> >
> > Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
> > Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
> > Associate Expert
> > Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Joe.Baird
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 1:06 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [ActiveDir] Separating an Active Directory Forest
> > >
> > >
> > > Well I have a good one for everyone.  I have a customer that
> > > we did the original Active Directory design and
> > > implementation for last year and they are being considered
> > > for sell next year.  The problem is that they are in a forest
> > > structure (Single tree, with empty root and the two companies
> > > being child domains under the empty root) with the parent
> > > organization and neither of them want to absorb the expense
> > > of doing a migration out of the forest. As a note, both
> > > organizations do have two root dcs in their central sites.
> > > Basically the process they have come up with is to:
> > >
> > > 1.)  Build a DC from the other company's domain in each of
> > > the two organizations data centers.
> > > 2.)  Break the link between the two organizations
> > > 3.)  Seize the respective FSMO roles from the root domain to
> > > the existing root domain DCs
> > > 4.)  Seize the 3 domain FSMO roles to the newly created DC
> > > 5.)  Remove all corresponding Service and DNS records
> > > 6.)  Do a metadata cleanup on all DCs from the other domains
> > > 7.)  Then run dcpromo on the DC from the other domain to
> > > remove it from the organization.
> > >
> > >  Basically they both want to keep the existing root forest
> > > structure but remove the others domain structure.  The
> > > biggest hurdle that I see is the inability to successfully
> > > demote the DC and choosing the option that ":this is the last
> > > DC in this domain".  If anyone has tried this or has input on
> > > potential issues please let me know.
> > >
> > >
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