<Sound of hand hitting forehead>

Gotcha.  You know, as whacky as it sounds, it might just work.  Test
lab, here we come!

Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone





> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Joe.Baird
> Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 7:45 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Separating an Active Directory Forest
> 
> 
> Rick, what they are trying to mimic is to other company 
> completely burning to the ground so to speak.  They are going 
> to cut the WAN connection and then pretend that the other DCs 
> no longer exist.  Meaning they go into a disaster recovery 
> mode by seizing all of the roles and begin the metadata cleanup.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick Kingslan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:26 PM
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Separating an Active Directory Forest
> 
> 
> > Joe,
> >
> > IMHO and experience, wish them good luck.  The reason why 
> there must 
> > be a migration for one group or the other is because someone has to 
> > own the original forest.  You cannot just BOTH seize the Schema and 
> > Domain Naming FSMO roles to the respective 'new root', as 
> it can only 
> > be held by one or the other.
> >
> > With the current tools, I can't even imagine this being 
> successful - 
> > without a migration of new Company B's computers, users, and groups 
> > (plus all of the ancillary stuff) to a new forest.
> >
> > Ack!
> >
> > Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
> > Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
> > Associate Expert
> > Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Joe.Baird
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 1:06 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [ActiveDir] Separating an Active Directory Forest
> > >
> > >
> > > Well I have a good one for everyone.  I have a customer 
> that we did 
> > > the original Active Directory design and implementation for last 
> > > year and they are being considered for sell next year.  
> The problem 
> > > is that they are in a forest structure (Single tree, with 
> empty root 
> > > and the two companies being child domains under the empty 
> root) with 
> > > the parent organization and neither of them want to absorb the 
> > > expense of doing a migration out of the forest. As a note, both
> > > organizations do have two root dcs in their central sites.
> > > Basically the process they have come up with is to:
> > >
> > > 1.)  Build a DC from the other company's domain in each 
> of the two 
> > > organizations data centers.
> > > 2.)  Break the link between the two organizations
> > > 3.)  Seize the respective FSMO roles from the root domain to the 
> > > existing root domain DCs
> > > 4.)  Seize the 3 domain FSMO roles to the newly created DC
> > > 5.)  Remove all corresponding Service and DNS records
> > > 6.)  Do a metadata cleanup on all DCs from the other domains
> > > 7.)  Then run dcpromo on the DC from the other domain to 
> remove it 
> > > from the organization.
> > >
> > >  Basically they both want to keep the existing root 
> forest structure 
> > > but remove the others domain structure.  The biggest 
> hurdle that I 
> > > see is the inability to successfully demote the DC and 
> choosing the 
> > > option that ":this is the last DC in this domain".  If anyone has 
> > > tried this or has input on potential issues please let me know.
> > >
> > >
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