I think its part of Enterprise Admins, but I'm not 100% sure.

And part of the client's requirements should be that you suggest the correct
solution, not necessarily what they want.

Roger
--------------------------------------------------------------
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Graham Turner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 1:44 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] delegation of root domain admin
> 
> 
> Roger i wont diasgree with a word u say !!
> 
> am trying to accommodate the administrative requirement of the client
> 
> can you remind me what permissions (group membership) are 
> required for sites / subnet administration
> 
> GT
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roger Seielstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 6:34 PM
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] delegation of root domain admin
> 
> 
> > Lord no - I wouldn't trust sites and subnet changes to lower level 
> > admins. One bad change and an entire site (or sites) lose 
> replication.
> >
> > Also, even considering that I've worked for two fairly fast 
> paced and 
> > very dynamic companies, post-deployment I rarely make changes to 
> > either. In
> fact,
> > I have made exactly two changes in the last 12 months, both 
> supporting 
> > office moves.
> >
> > Keep in mind what modifying each of these items actually 
> represents -
> you're
> > affecting a number of areas of AD other than just which domain 
> > controllers are used for authentication. You're affecting 
> replication 
> > topology, group policy application, and a number of other factors.
> >
> > Personally, I don't think any of the administration relegated to a 
> > root domain within an empty root style forest should be 
> done by junior 
> > admins. Especially unsupervised.
> >
> > Roger
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Inovis Inc.
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Graham Turner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 12:58 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] delegation of root domain admin
> > >
> > >
> > > Roger, I thank your post reply.
> > >
> > > it would seem what i am trying to separate here is the 
> admin of the 
> > > sites / subnets - a generally low impact change - from 
> that of the 
> > > rest of the forest root.
> > >
> > > not sure of the default permissions to administer sites / 
> subnets - 
> > > but i would guess under default ACL's needs to be fairly highly 
> > > privilged ??
> > >
> > > i would agree with totally seperate accounts for schema admin .
> > >
> > > but not necessarily sites and subnets which is a much 
> more frequent 
> > > occurrence and generally assigned to a more junior 
> administrator and 
> > > by corollary should not be assigned a privileged account.
> > >
> > > GT
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Roger Seielstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 5:12 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] delegation of root domain admin
> > >
> > >
> > > > In general, I'd say not to do it at all, although there is no
> > > > *technical* reason it can't be done - at least none of
> > > which I which I
> > > > am aware.
> > > >
> > > > I have 3 accounts (ok, 4 if you count my Unix ID) which I use: 
> > > > -General User account -Production Domain admin account -Root 
> > > > Domain admin account
> > > >
> > > > It is probably a little bit of overkill to have 2 
> different admin
> > > accounts,
> > > > rather than one, but the reality is that I rarely need 
> to log in 
> > > > as the
> > > root
> > > > admin account. Since that account also has Enterprise and
> > > Schema admin
> > > > priviledges, I find it a bit too powerful to use day to day
> > > for admin
> > > work.
> > > >
> > > > The other piece of the puzzle is that you created an empty root 
> > > > for the reason of separating administration from the 
> main (I call 
> > > > it
> > > > production) domain. Why undo that by creating cross domain
> > > delegation
> > > > of
> > > adminisatrative
> > > > rights?
> > > >
> > > > Roger
> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> > > > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > > > Inovis Inc.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Graham Turner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 9:36 AM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: [ActiveDir] delegation of root domain admin
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > apologies if i have already posted here, but this still
> > > remains on
> > > > > my issue log
> > > > >
> > > > > would very much like to be able to get information on
> > > strategies for
> > > > > the delegation of site / subnet administration (on 
> foreest root
> > > > > DC's) to child domain security principals
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > GT
> > > > >
> > > > >
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