OK, that's what I understood.

Doing the replication topology manually isn't a wonderful solution, but it
is workable. Manuall defining a hub-and-spokish replication topology with 19
DCs is not a huge undertaking. Forcing the appropriate authentication
topology would require judicious assignment of DNS servers and fiddling of
SRV recs. All doable, but agreed, its a pain in the a--.

-gil

-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 11:19 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Replication Problems...


Bridged WAN = 1 subnet, everything is local to everything else. It's a
traffic nightmare, especially since every broadcast traverses every WAN
link.

>From an AD perspective, I'm always wary of doing the manual replication
objects. Not to mention one would have to do a LOT of work to ensure the use
of local DC's for authentication.

Roger
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Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gil Kirkpatrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 1:59 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Replication Problems...
> 
> 
> Raymond, Roger,
> 
> Perhaps I'm missing the significance of a "bridged WAN", but
> why not disable the KCC and create your own connection 
> objects to control which DCs replicate with each other?
> 
> -gil
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Raymond McClinnis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 9:06 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Replication Problems...
> 
> 
> We do, at least, have each of our remote sites with a
> different IP range since the network USED to be routed (long 
> story short, our core processor uses a serial printing 
> protocol that was not routable at the
> time)  We are redesigning the network this year so that we 
> can unf#$%^ ourselves.  But in the meantime changes we make 
> don't replicate, or un-replicate.
> 
> On a side note, our network has broken even the most
> confident of men, the consultant that just left was "on top 
> of his game" before he worked on our network.  But he left a 
> broken and battered man with a lot of self-doubt (and as a 
> good friend).  
> 
> And if the guy who 'designed' this network were still here
> Roger, having what you mentioned happen to him would be the 
> LEAST of his worries :-).
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> 
> 
> Raymond McClinnis
> Network Administrator
> Provident Credit Union
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Roger Seielstad
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 8:15 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Replication Problems...
> 
> There are no good topologies for a bridged WAN. Including the
> time I saw a three building campus bridged by OC3 (155MBps) 
> lines. Performance was still an issue.
> 
> Is there any logical segmentation that can be done, such as
> each office has its own block of IPs? That would allow you to 
> create AD Sites and use that to control replication traffic. 
> Without that, I'd say you're screwed.
> 
> I do think you should have your network engineer fired, then
> shot, hung, and sent to the Russian Front!
> 
> Roger
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis Inc.
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Raymond McClinnis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 11:06 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [ActiveDir] Replication Problems...
> > 
> > 
> > Hello all,
> > 
> > Does anyone know a good topology for a bridged WAN.  Once everyone
> > picks
> > up their jaws, I'll continue.   We have approximately 18 DC's 
> > at remote
> > sites on various low bandwidth lines (from 384K to T-1).  By
> > default all the servers are trying to talk to each other and 
> > there have been instances of us removing users from groups 
> > and the user returning to the group.  
> > 
> > I had thought of pointing all the remote controllers to the
> DC's here
> > at HQ.  and having the ones here at HQ talk amongst themselves.  Is
> > this a good idea, or is there a better solution.  I appreciate any 
> > input y'all can give me.
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks in Advance,
> > 
> > Raymond McClinnis
> > Network Administrator
> > Provident Credit Union
> > 
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