Correct.

One option is to run IPSec tunnels without encryption - that allows for full
content inspection while still having reduced requirements for open ports.

--------------------------------------------------------------
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 9:12 AM
> To: ActiveDir
> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] WOT Unreadable code (was Connection String)
> 
> 
> I would like to see his thoughts on the matter.  MS's 
> published recommendations for using ipsec tunnels to traverse 
> firewalls is fine between trusted environments, but most 
> trusted environments can create their own vpn tunnels using 
> firewalls more efficiently.  And between untrusted 
> environments it would be generally irresponsible (security-wise).
> 
> --------------------------
> Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ActiveDir-owner
> Sent: 08/05/2003 11:10 PM
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] WOT Unreadable code (was Connection String)
> 
> Todd,
> 
> If you're working with Microsoft, have them contact or engage 
> Steve Riley.
> He's a 'softie that has specific experience in large environments
> (previously telecoms) and I seem to remember the last time we 
> talked he was
> with some area of the Security practices - though I can't 
> specifically state
> where.  He is in Redmond now (last I knew), and has published 
> some very
> interesting and promising work on AD over/through/around 
> firewalls using
> IPSec and other advanced technologies.
> 
> Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
> Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Myrick, Todd
> (NIH/CIT)
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 3:31 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] WOT Unreadable code (was Connection String)
> 
> Well we are currently redesigning our Site Topology due to several
> organizations setting up firewalls and thinking they are 
> guarding against
> Neo and the Matrix Gang.  One thing we are working with 
> Microsoft on is
> optimized Hub and Spoke topology by creating sites for 
> networks that are
> behind firewalls.  We want to address a couple of things here 
> in the design
> as well.  Failover DDNS service, Deployment of an Enterprise 
> Level Directory
> Tripwire tool, and Enterprise Directory Monitoring.  What 
> would be cool is
> if there was a directory optimization tool as well.  One that 
> would set DNS
> SRV record Priorities.  I haven't had a chance to look at the 
> latest version
> of DT to see if it is in there yet.
> 
> Part of the Firewall configuration is to set a static port.  
> The question is
> "Is one port enough?".  I was reading some Backup Exec 
> Documents and they
> recommended that their application have at least 20 ports 
> open for their
> DCOM object.  Anyone have experience here and what to help a 
> brother out?
> 
> Toddler
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gil Kirkpatrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 3:58 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] WOT Unreadable code (was Connection String)
> 
> 
> What's up Todd? You have a hankerin' for some chicken?
> 
> And I probably should stop wasting everyone's inbox capacity with this
> silliness... Doesn't someone have some AD problems that need fixing?
> 
> -gil
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Myrick, Todd (NIH/CIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 12:31 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] WOT Unreadable code (was Connection String)
> 
> 
> Gil, you should give one out for every Enterprise purchase of Netpro
> Products.
> 
> Todd Myrick
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gil Kirkpatrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 3:22 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] WOT Unreadable code (was Connection String)
> 
> 
> John,
> 
> Stella has put the world-famous Official DEC Screaming Yellow 
> Rubber Chicken
> in the mail, so you should get it by the end of the week or 
> so. When you do
> get it, be sure to give it a good squeeze.
> 
> When I spoke at the 2002 AFITC, a general from ACC (I've 
> forgotten his name)
> told me that someone in his office had received one and the noise was
> driving him crazy. Scratch the chicken off the list of how to 
> win friends
> and influence people.
> 
> -gil
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bjelke John A Contr AFRL/VSIO 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 12:01 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] WOT Unreadable code (was Connection String)
> 
> 
> Gil, 
>       I'm not THAT old! Man, next you'll be implying that I built the
> DARPAnet! 
> (and we all know it was Al Gore who's responsible for that!) 
> *grin* Nah, I
> just have a fondness for old, dead languages and remembered 
> seeing that one
> before. I actually had a book mark to a "history of 
> computing" type doc that
> had this very example of MUMPS code. As for DEC Ottawa, I 
> doubt it, times
> and budgets being what they are. But I'll take the chicken... 
> sounds like
> cool geek-schwag :^)
> 
>          John A. Bjelke       
>               Unisys
>          505.853.6774
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput 
> tuum saxum immane
> mittam.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gil Kirkpatrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 12:01 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] WOT Unreadable code (was Connection String)
> 
> 
> Wow John! I'm impressed. Were you at Unisys when MUMPS actually ran on
> Unisys minis? Or did you just get lucky with Google? :)
> 
> I'm thinking that your answer deserves a world-famous 
> Official DEC Screaming
> Yellow Rubber Chicken, whose hideous screech is known to 
> strike fear in the
> hearts of dogs, cats, and small children.
>  
> Are you coming to DEC Ottawa? I can give it to you there, 
> along with your
> free beer. Otherwise, send me your shipping info offlist, and 
> no beer for
> you.
> 
> -gil
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bjelke John A Contr AFRL/VSIO 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:39 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] WOT Unreadable code (was Connection String)
> 
> 
> prints a table of primes, formatting it into columns. What's 
> my prize :^)
> 
> 
>          John A. Bjelke       
>               Unisys
>          505.853.6774
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> If it's as difficult as pulling teeth through an elephants 
> rump, then the
> approach needs to be reevaluated.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gil Kirkpatrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:56 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] WOT Unreadable code (was Connection String)
> 
> 
> Have you ever coded in MUMPS? It doesn't matter who the 
> programmer is; its
> ALWAYS unreadable. I think MUMPS programmers invented the 
> term "write-only
> programs".
> 
> Typical MUMPS program: f p=2,3:2 s q=1 x "f f=3:2 q:f*f>p!'q  
> s q=p#f" w:q
> p,?$x\8+1*8
> 
> If anyone can guess what this code does, I'll give them a prize.
> 
> -g
> 
> Gil Kirkpatrick
> CTO, NetPro
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robbie Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 6:51 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Connection String
> 
> 
> Ha!  It is not the language that makes code unreadable, it is 
> the PROGRAMMER
> :-)
> 
> Robbie Allen
> http://www.rallenhome.com/
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Glenn Corbett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:38 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Connection String
> > 
> > 
> > HAHAHA....Perl
> > 
> > I like to be able to read my code and understand it again 
> in 6 months
> > :)
> > 
> > Glenn
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Robbie Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 11:14 PM
> > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Connection String
> > 
> > 
> > > > Come over to the 'Dark Side' with VB.NET.....its nice and warm
> > > > here *looks at the fires of hell*.
> > >
> > > Come on guys, why go to VB.NET when you can get most of the
> > benefits of a
> > > compiled language and a whole lot more in a lot fewer lines
> > with Perl!
> > >
> > > muaahh...Muaahh...MUUAAAHH....
> > >
> > > :-)
> > >
> > > Robbie Allen
> > > http://www.rallenhome.com/
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Glenn Corbett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 8:54 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Connection String
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Roger,
> > > >
> > > > You should be able to convert the Primary Windows NT
> > Account into a
> > > > Domain\Username pair....I did do it some time ago (yeah,
> > it was Ex 5.5
> > > > timeframe too)....I'll have a dig around (from memory 
> it was using
> > > > LookupAccountSID *shudder*)
> > > >
> > > > If your UPN in 2k and Exchange email address use the same
> > format (ie
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]), you could cheat a bit, and use the UPN
> > > > conversion type code:
> > > >
> > > > ADS_NAME_TYPE_USER_PRINCIPAL_NAME = 9
> > > > User principal name format. For example, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > > > *shrug* might be worth a stab.
> > > >
> > > > not sure about mixing NT v4 and 2k servers in the call, I don't
> > > > think it would work too well (may require AD).
> > > >
> > > > Come over to the 'Dark Side' with VB.NET.....its nice and warm
> > > > here *looks at the fires of hell*.
> > > >
> > > > G.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Roger Seielstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:42 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Connection String
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Cool.... Might be able to stay away from a compiler for
> > another 3
> > > > months...
> > > > >
> > > > > I know what it was that didn't work - VBScript can't
> > handle the way
> > > > Exchange
> > > > > 5.5[1] returns the Primary Windows NT Account attribute -
> > > > it comes back as
> > > > a
> > > > > string octet (I think). The VB examples all included the
> > > > same contstant
> > > > > defs, so I was thinking it was the same thing I looked at a
> > > > month or two
> > > > > ago.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now I'm wondering if I can just direct translate using the
> > > > syntax below...
> > > > > I'll have to try that later...
> > > > >
> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> > > > > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > > > > Inovis Inc.
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] Yeah, I'm still running it
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Glenn Corbett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 8:36 AM
> > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Connection String
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >From the online help about NameTranslate, VBScript Example
> > > > > > (havent tried it,
> > > > > > but looks like it should work)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   Dim nto
> > > > > >   const ADS_NAME_INITTYPE_SERVER = 2
> > > > > >   const ADS_NAME_TYPE_1779 = 1
> > > > > >   const ADS_NAME_TYPE_NT4 = 3
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   server = "aDsServer"
> > > > > >   user   = "jeffsmith"
> > > > > >   dom    = "Fabrikam"
> > > > > >   passwd = "top secret"
> > > > > >   dn = "CN=jeffsmith,CN=Users,DC=Fabrikam,DC=COM"
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   Set nto = Server.CreateObject("NameTranslate")
> > > > > >   nto.InitEx ADS_NAME_INITTYPE_SERVER, server, user,
> > dom, passwd
> > > > > >   nto.Set ADS_NAME_TYPE_1779, dn
> > > > > >   result = nto.Get(ADS_NAME_TYPE_NT4)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Roger Seielstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:31 PM
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Connection String
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The only problem with that is you can't call the 
> same methods
> > > > > > from VBScript
> > > > > > - which is where I seem to need it the most..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Better brush up on my mAd VB.net skilz...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> > > > > > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > > > > > Inovis Inc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Glenn Corbett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 8:17 AM
> > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Connection String
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Pablo,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > here is some code I use in VB.NET to do a similar
> > > > thing, should be
> > > > > > > convertable to C# without much hassle
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > strUserName = the fully qualified LDAP path of a user
> > > > or group, ie
> > > > > > > LDAP://CN=GroupName,DC=testdomain,DC=local
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 'Constants required, rest are in the online doco for
> > > > NameTranslate
> > > > > > > Const ADS_NAME_INITTYPE_GC = 3
> > > > > > > Const ADS_NAME_TYPE_1779 = 1
> > > > > > > Const ADS_NAME_TYPE_NT4 = 3
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dim Translate As New ActiveDs.NameTranslate
> > > > > > > Dim strUser As String
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 'We want to chat to a GC server, any one will do
> > > > > > > Translate.Init(ADS_NAME_INITTYPE_GC, "") 'Pass in 
> the FQDN 
> > > > > > > name of the object Translate.Set(ADS_NAME_TYPE_1779, 
> > > > > > > Mid(strUserName, 8)) <-- the call doesnt like the 
> LDAP:// on 
> > > > > > > the front, so strip it 'Get back the NT v4 Equivalent 
> > > > > > > strUser = Translate.Get(ADS_NAME_TYPE_NT4) Translate = 
> > > > > > > Nothing
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > strUser now = the DOMAIN\UserName pair
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You can easily go the other way, ie pass in the
> > > > > > > Domain\username pair, and get back the LDAP path. 
> Its all in 
> > > > > > > the online doco,
> > just do a
> > > > > > > search for
> > > > > > > NameTranslate
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Very cool actually, was hacking around trying to 
> pull apart
> > > > > > > LDAP strings and massage them myself, this is MUCH easier 
> > > > > > > (and faster)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > HTH
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Glenn
> > > > > > > (lucky you asked today, worked out how to to this last
> > > > night *grin*)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Pablo Curello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:44 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Connection String
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That's right, but what if the user Pablo Curello is
> > inside an
> > > > > > > organizational
> > > > > > > group ?
> > > > > > > In that case, the LDAP string should be (for example):
> > > > > > > "LDAP://cn=Pablo Curello, ou=Sales, 
> dc=yourdomain, dc=com". 
> > > > > > > It doesn´t work with: "LDAP://cn=Pablo Curello,
> > > > > > dc=yourdomain, dc=com"
> > > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Costanzo, Ray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 2:34 PM
> > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I believe that you mean DOMAIN\Username, and if so:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Function GetFullName(sUser)
> > > > > > > Dim sUsername, sDomain
> > > > > > > sUserInfo = Split(sUser, "\")
> > > > > > > sDomain = sUserInfo(0)
> > > > > > > sUsername = sUserInfo(1)
> > > > > > > Set oUser = GetObject("WinNT://" & sDomain & "/" 
> & sUsername
> > > > > > > & ",user")
> > > > > > >     GetFullName = oUser.Fullname
> > > > > > >     Set oUser = Nothing
> > > > > > > End Function
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That will give you the full name, such as:
> > "Curello\, Pablo"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And then you can use:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > sFullname = GetFullName("pcurello")
> > > > > > > sLDAP = "LDAP://cn="; & sFullname & ",dc=yourdomain,dc=com"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How you get the dc= part from the oldschool netbios name,
> > > > > > I'm not sure
> > > > > > > though.  And I can't translate this to C for you.  :]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ray at work
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Pablo Curello [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello all.
> > > > > > > Does anybody know how to transform a user's identity
> > > > > > > "DOMAIN/USERNAME" to an ldap connection string "CN=name, 
> > > > > > > DC=..." ? I know how to do it in COM (C++) using 
> > > > > > > IADsNameTranslate interface, but now I´m using C#. Thanks.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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