In my real world there are only 3 people other than myself in the whole
world who have administrator level rights in AD and on DC's and have
interactive logon rights to DC's who can make core level changes. This
is for a global production forest comprising around 380 domain
controllers and some 200k-250k users. All 4 of us are within slapping
distance of each other which really helps out on the coordination. I
guess there is a hole in if our building with us got blown up or eaten
up in a tornado together, but overall I would say it has helped a
whaleload more than it has hurt.

Four counterpoint, there is a small AD Forest in our company that isn't
run by us that is for a very small group and has maybe 4-6 domain
controllers but have something like 30-40 admins and they are always
trying to figure out who did what that broke this that or the other
thing. 

Overall my basic saying for AD and Domain Controllers is... Any idiot
can screw it up, very very few know enough to go back in and figure out
what the idiot did and bring it back from the dead or even the stage of
"hurting real bad". And with those very few, you couldn't get a timeline
as to how long it would take to bring it back from the dead. I gave a 3
month timeline once... 9 additional months later I was still finding
things that had been screwed up. 

  joe


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Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 4:44 PM
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What happens in the real world when this happens?  With message boards,
chat rooms, and instant messengers configuration changes could be
documented and discussed.  Your question goes back to trust, Is someone
going to make changes on there own with no concern for the other
participants?


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From: Gil Kirkpatrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 2:44 PM
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Interesting idea.... I would think that trust isn't so much of an issue
as configuration management. If you have 20 people link their 100
servers into a couple of AD forests (for instance), how do you make sure
no one reconfigures the replication topology right when you're in the
middle of testing out some site-specific GPO?

-g

-----Original Message-----
From: Cary, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 10:33 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: [ActiveDir] Home Labs Interconnected


I wanted to pose this idea to the group and get some feedback.  

Resources at work are limited for a test lab and I only have 3 computers
at home for a lab, and I would think at least some of you are in similar
situations.  The home lab is ok for some stuff but I find it's hard to
put a real world slant on such a small network.  

Would it be plausible to get several IT people, that haven't really met
just interacted online (such as this list), to connect there home labs
over the Internet creating a larger lab environment.  This would create
many different sites and subnets, something hard to do in a standalone
home lab with limited hardware.  I see the biggest issue would be with
security and trust, could this be overcome?  Could this experiment
succeed or would some people always be trying to trash everyone else's
computers?

What do you think?


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