Alright Joe, I would be interested in hearing how to do the reset on the
password timestamp.  Privately if you think this could be abused?

Toddler

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 9:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Password Policy - Challenge....

Yep passwords would expire. The policy is on the domain and it is a delta
value that is stored in the domain partition that handles this. It causes
the system to go back that delta value and then any accounts that haven't
been changed since that calculated time are expired. 

Also this has to be done on the domain policy. 

You have a couple of options. 

1. Send a note to everyone and tell them to change their password.

2. Expire portions of the id's each day until you have gotten through all of
them. Then once all done, sey up the domain policy. See my expire tool on
www.joeware.net site as that tool was specifically written for this
scenario.

3. Get the passwords time reset. Todd's idea below will work but could take
a while if you have decent passwords and really isn't the elegant way to do
this.

Instead you can reset the password timestamp on the user accounts so that
they are all started out as if they had just been changed but really haven't
and then turn on your policy....

Now I was going to post the way to do this, but thought, you know, let's
test the group and see who else knows this little trick..... I will post an
answer within a day or if you need it quicker email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and I will send a little script to pull it off.

   joe


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Myrick, Todd
(NIH/CIT)
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 3:44 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'

You are correct, your company passwords would expire.

The solution I suggest is to crack all the passwords, then reset the
original password to each account to reset expiration.  Then implement the
Domain Account policy again.  Also remember that NTLM and Kerberos
authentications count double.  So if you client has problems with
authentication it will try Kerberos then NTLM and a single bad logon counts
twice.  So 10 bad password attempt really means 5 within the limited time
frame you set.

Todd  

-----Original Message-----
From: Travis Riddle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 3:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] Password Policy


I made a slight error when creating a group policy, and now need some advice
on how to fix it.  Hopefully some one will be kind enough to help out.  I
have a single domain with 2 sites.  I created a Default Policy for the
entire domain with fairly minimal settings (such as password policy, proxy
settings and a few IE settings).  Our manufacturing facility is our largest
site, and our corporate offices is significantly smaller, so instead of
applying one policy several times I set block policy inheritance for the
corporate OU (so they wouldn't get the Proxy and IE settings).  I then set
password settings on the separate corporate OU.  Well, I guess I didn't
realize at the time that you could only have one password policy for the
domain, so basically they haven't had to change their passwords for some
time now.

So here is the problem, I need to enable the password policy for corporate,
but if I do I think it will immediately expire their passwords (since they
are well over 90 days old).  Is my thinking wrong here, and is there a way
around this or am I going to have to call the corporate guys and have them
manually change their passwords?  Any ideas?

Your suggestions are much appreciated,

Thanks,

Travis
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