Done the same, going through a MOM deployment now... I agree wholeheartedly on most points made. AppManager is BY FAR easier to navigate and use. I do find that MOM delivers better bang for the buck in terms of latent knowledge in product rule sets. Setting up AppManager to pick up all those events, counters, etc... would take quite a long time.
Make sure you look at the support model as well, since NetIQ generally uses a year-long contract, use as many calls as you want... and MOM is PSS calls based. Reporting in both products suck and neither are built for long-term reporting. As someone alluded to earlier, reporting for AppManager (long-term) was an afterthought. They created another product which the same agent can communicate with to store the same data point in two different locations... the idea being to groom your AppManager database often to keep the console functional. MOM uses DTS package jobs that run on schedule to copy the data to another SQL server. You have to keep in mind the rules-based to script-based agent as well. AppManager agents are primarily script-based - which means they have to run at set intervals to look for certain events. MOM agents are primarily rules-based which means they deliver the information when the event occurs. They both do a little of the other, too. At any rate, a hybrid product would be great... one that is as easy to use as AppManager (drag and drop scripts on a machine) and one that comes with as much "knowledge" as MOM. Hopefully MOM2004 delivers on that... -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Corbett Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 4:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: NetIQ or MOM Chris, I've deployed both of these products in reasonably large environments..... - Both NetIQ and MOM require a fair bit of setup to get the right level of monitoring going - Both require constant attention to be effective monitoring / reporting platforms (they are not set-and-forget products) - NetIQ's monitoring is more flexible and customisable IMHO. - Both products are very expensive, with costs for base level OS agents, plus additional costs for layered applications (like Exchange / SQL) - NetIQ is a very mature product, MOM is essentially v1.0 (take that any way you want) - the current version of MOM is basically an OEM version of NetIQ - NetIQ's cross platform support is MILES / LEAGUES / KM (depending on your unit of measurement) ahead of MOM, and will be for some time. There is a bunch of other things, it has been talked about on the list previously (fairly recently actually). For my money, NetIQ is crrently the better prodct, but we all know what happens once MS put their muscle behind a particular product sector. That being said, NetIQ will probably be left standing, as they have a great range of products and people, not just in the overlap with MOM. Glenn On Fri, 2003-10-10 at 00:13, Chris Flesher wrote: > We're looking at NetIQ for monitoring our Windows/SQL stuff, as well > as what it can do on Unix (Solaris, AIX). However, with Microsoft > going head on into monitoring, should I be worried about the affect > this will have on NetIQ in the short/long term? Which is a better > product right now? Which has better cross-platform support? > > We are a dominantly Windows in this department, with Unix in there as > well. > > Thank you for any info you may have. > > Chris Flesher > The University of Chicago > NSIT/DCS > 1-773-834-8477 > List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
