Excellent article...thanks a 1,000,000 !!

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From: Tony Murray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Montag, 20. Oktober 2003 15:45
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] FSMO role holding DC's


Just to add to this, all DCs will require direct access to at least the RID
Master and the PDCE.  I don't believe direct access to the IM is required as
this communicates with a nearby GC and then uses standard AD replication to
send updates to DCs in the same domain.  You won't need the the Schema
Master unless you wnat to update the schema remotely.  And you will need
access to the Domain Naming master only if you plan to add or remove
domains.

Looking at your earlier mail, it seems there is a DMZ involved.  I think the
prevailing view is that you should generally not have DCs from the same
forest in both the DMZ and the internal network, because of the security
issues.  An alternative would perhaps be to set up separate forests.  If you
really don't like that approach, some alternatives are outlined in the
following article.

http://www.microsoft.com/serviceproviders/columns/config_ipsec_P63623.asp

Tony
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From: "Kingslan, Rick T." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Mon, 20 Oct 2003 07:57:42 -0500

Mark,

If you mean direct, do they have to be able to communicate with it
one-on-one.... Hmmmm.  I'm not aware of a method to proxy, as RID requests
must be made to the RID master, Infrastructure updates won't be a problem,
PDC emulator might be an issue.

If you're replicating (I assume that the DC is getting all AD updates as
well as the SYSVOL keeping in synch with the rest of the DC's?) it's not
easy to separate the functions.  IOW, to my knowledge, you're either
replicating or you aren't.  I don't know of a way to distinguish between AD
and file replication at the DC's level.  And, if you orphan a DC - it's not
really part of the domain anymore.  It must communicate with the domain or
literally die.

Clearly, you can change the schedule (frequency, time of day, etc.) - and it
wouldn't surprise me to have someone pop up here (Robbie, Dean, Joe, Todd,
Gil, etc.) and say - 'Sure you can do this, you can do this....'
Interesting topic, I'm not sure it's going to buy you much, or that it's
even really possible.

SMTP is always an option....

Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
LAN Administration - Windows 2000
West Corporation
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-----Original Message-----
From: Abbiss, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 4:58 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: [ActiveDir] FSMO role holding DC's


I have nudged this issue in an earlier post but would like to ask again for
confirmation from the collective genius contained in this list.

Do all DC's in a domain HAVE to have a direct connection to the FSMO role
holding machines or is there a way of "proxying" these roles ?

What are some of the likely major implications of maintaining a DC without
access to FSMO role holders ? The DC in question is replicating with other
DC's, so has all objects but just doenst have any connection to the FSMO
role holders.

Any thoughts ? 

Many thanks
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