Joe,

Hmmmmm.  Apparently, we were typing about the same time.  Question/topic
comes about the same time as the response.  

Ehhhh.....  What the heck - maybe next time.  

;)

Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
  

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Kingslan
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 9:45 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] You guys amaze me!

OK - here's a GOOD topic.  Joe, can you explain some of the in's and out's
of your password reset system (without, obviously - revealing sensitive
issues) and how it works (again - same caveat applies).

I'm most interested in how you approached and solved the security issues in
how to absolutely and uniquely identify a user.  Clearly, the implications
are huge.  If everyone is subject to such a system, can it be used as a DoS
tool, if not - how did you mitigate?  Natuarally, with a password policy in
place the easiest way to DoS anyone is to just attempt to login with a bogus
password until it locks the account.  Obviously, many of us are getting more
script aware, and this sounds like a cool application we all could use.

The reason that I ask is two-fold:

1.  Sounds like a perfect conversation topic now that we've beat the shit
out of Exchange 2.  I'm self-serving and tried to do this only to get shot
down by our Sec Director

Reasons why it got shot down are valid, but will come out during the
discussion, so I won't taint it up front.

What say you, Mr. Richards?  Are you game?  Or, just gamey?  ;p

Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
 



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 12:46 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] You guys amaze me!

Right up front, the domain rename scares me. Everyone seems to say, yeah it
is there but.... 

Before I answer anything else though, what kind of data do you have in AD?
Is it the basic NOS stuff or have you deployed Exchange or other AD aware
apps that have populated it? My guess is you aren't doing a lot with AD yet
so most likely following option two doesn't lose much if any information
that you can't export off into LDIFs and reimport after you are back to W2K
DC's.

Pay isn't bad. However, in relative terms you are probably doing better. 100
users per admin versus our ratio of something like 83000 users per admin and
I would be lucky to be making 5x-10x what you make let alone 830x.... On the
flip side though, you probably haven't put a provisioning system and auto
password reset system into place - yet. :op

   joe


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rocky Habeeb
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 10:06 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'm serious.

Here is a question for you.  As always, if you could offer any info, I would
be very grateful.  We're a small shop with only 2 Admins managing 200 users
in 4 states and we don't have the firepower you guys do.

Let's say you don't like your AD domain name and you want to change it.  You
have 4 DCs, 3 each W2K SP3 and 1 each NT4 SP6a, so you're still in mixed
mode.  You could move the NT DC to 2K, then move everyone to W2K3, then
raise the Forest functionality level and then play Russian Roulette with
Rendom.  That's one option.  Or could it be as simple as DCPromoing all 3
W2K3 servers down to Standalone servers, allowing the NT4 DC which still
controls the pre-W2K subdomain name to take full control of the domain
again, and then DCPromoing one of the 3 W2K DCs back up to W2K as the FSMO
and renaming the domain to what you want?  I would love to believe I could
do it and get away with it.

Thank you people.

PS:  I don't envy you Joe.  I hope you're being paid well!

RH

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Rocky Habeeb
Microsoft Systems Administrator
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James W. Sewall Company
Old Town, Maine
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207.827.4456
habr @ jws.com
www.jws.com
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