Joe, thanks for the reply.
 
Similarly, Intel has developed a command line tool to enumerate all group memberships, but for mass consumption by the "office worker" community, you can't beat an out of box, graphical user interface solution from Microsoft.  Yes, I did say that.
 

Alan A Isham
Messaging and Active Directory Engineering
Intel Corporation in Folsom, California

 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 6:07 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] MMC ADUC doesn't view groups I am a member of in my non local domain

I wasn't even aware that the new aduc did that, shows you how much I use the GUI... :op
 
I am actually glad it is like that though I could see a slightly better implementation (obviously). The reason behind me liking it is for the consistency. I think the better way to do it would be to have another window that shows detected non-local domain memberships or at least highlight them with some coloring and have some sort of blurb that explains that these can be inconsistently displayed depending on the focus of the GUI. Note that if you could point aduc at the GC partition of a user on a GC of a domain the user isn't a member of, you could display the users global and DL group memberships on that domain. We use that hack for a couple of our UNIX applications so they don't need Uni's but can still use GC's for retrieving the group memberships that are important to their app.
 
I would really really rather see a way for MS to populate some new attribute with ALL group memberships irregardless of location in forest. I realize that there are some implementation details there that are involved but think it would be immensely worth it.
 
On the side Alan, if you haven't done so already, go look for memberof on my web site (www.joeware.net). It is a command line tool that will show you everything in your memberof attribute as well as your primary group and then will start chasing back through nesting for you.
 
 
  joe



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GRILLENMEIER,GUIDO (HP-Germany,ex1)
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 4:59 PM
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Hello Alan, I can see that you won't like this - it goes without saying, that you're talking about Universal Groups from other domains in your forest - correct?
 
In 2000, when connected to a GC, ADMU would display your UG memberships even when they're from a different domain (as a GC would create the appropriate BackLinks to your AD account). However, when you connect to "just" a DC, you would not see these memberships either (as the DC has no clue of the UGs of another Domain).  Ofcourse, even a GC has no idea, which Domain Local Groups in other domains you are a member of, as the members of DLGs are not replicated to GCs....
 
The 2k3 version of ADMU is somewhat more consistent, in that it ONLY displays your memberships of groups in the SAME domain that you're connected to.  Not so nice, if you've got used to seeing the other UGs on your GCs, but maybe more consistend overall.
 
However, don't forget, that the BackLinks to your AD accounts still exist on a GC - you can see them by checking the memberOf attribute of the account using other LDAP tools, such as ADSIedit. Here you will also see the UGs of the "foreign" domains in your forest.
 
 
This bug is a feature - if you don't like it, let me know - as I also don't like it... and I'm talking to the MS PM about this for sometime already - but I'm sure you can add some weight to it with a mail to A.L. yourself as well ;-).  Anyone else don't like this "update" ? ;-))
 
 
Cheers,
Guido


From: Isham, Alan A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Freitag, 14. November 2003 17:46
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] MMC ADUC doesn't view groups I am a member of in my non local domain

Anyone have a known workaround for the issue below?
 
I installed MMC Active Directory Users and Computers from Windows Server 2003 (version 5.2.3790.0) on a new desktop.  I can no longer view groups I am a member of in groups that reside outside of my local domain like I could with Windows 2000 (version 5.1.3590.0).  I've searched MSDN and Microsoft Support, but don't find any hacks to resolve.
 
For example,
 
User account is amr\jdoe
amr\jdoe is a member of amr\group1, gar\group2, ger\group3
 
In MMC AD UC Windows 2000 version 5.1.3590.0, I see the following:
Doe, John Properties
Member of:
Name    Active Directory Folder
Group1    amr.corp.company.com/blah, blah, blah
Group2    gar.corp.company.com/blah, blah, blah
Group3    ger.corp.company.com/blah, blah, blah
 
In MMC AD UC Windows Server 2003 version 5.2.3790.0, I see the following:
Doe, John Properties
Member of:
Name    Active Directory Folder
Group1    amr.corp.company.com/blah, blah, blah
 
Where is Group2 and Group3???
 
Thanks for your help!

Alan A Isham
Active Directory Engineering
Intel Corporation in Folsom, California

 

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