I've only been prompted for credentials when joining a domain, not when
leaving one. And those are always for the new domain, not the old.

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Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rich Milburn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 10:38 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Upgrading computers and computer objects
> 
> 
> You know... it's one of those things I rarely bother to do 
> because I do #2
> below, and the couple of times I have done it, I've never 
> checked to see if
> the account was gone.  Seems like you _should_ need domain 
> privs to remove a
> computer from the domain, and it _should_ delete the computer 
> account... now
> that you mention it I have "removed" computers from the 
> domain without being
> able to contact the DC.  What's the point of asking for an 
> account that can
> remove it from the domain, if you have to be an admin to get 
> that far in the
> first place? (though I've never tried switching to workgroup 
> as a non-admin
> account so maybe it will let you try to remove the computer 
> from the domain
> as a regular user and just ask for an admin account?)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 8:58 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Upgrading computers and computer objects
> 
> Actually, removing a computer from the domain on the client side (i.e.
> changing its domain membership to a workgroup) does NOT 
> remove the machine
> account from AD (nor did it remove the account in NT4 
> domains). No domain
> rights are required to remove a machine from the domain - you 
> can prove this
> by using the local admin account of a machine to remove it 
> from the domain.
> Local admin has no domain rights, yet you can remove the 
> machine from the
> domain.
> 
> The only action I know of which will remove the computer account
> automatically is running DCPromo to remove a DC.
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis Inc.
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rich Milburn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 9:32 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Upgrading computers and computer objects
> > 
> > 
> > Irwan forgive me if I read you wrong... 
> > 
> > I think what he's asking is about leaving the computer 
> > accounts in AD or
> > deleting them.  When you remove the computer from the domain 
> > (like join it
> > to a workgroup) it removes the computer account from the 
> > domain.  Or you can
> > turn the computer off and delete the account forcefully with 
> > ADUC or dsrm or
> > whatever.  Or you can reset the account - something I've 
> rarely used,
> > because I didn't know what the difference was from deleting 
> > the account and
> > adding the new computer with the same name.
> > 
> > Rich
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rick Kingslan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 1:32 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Upgrading computers and computer objects
> > 
> > Irwan,
> > 
> > I would concur that option two is the most successful 
> method, from my
> > experience.  For all intents and purposes, the Computer object is a
> > derivative of the User object and has a SID associated with 
> > it.  Simply
> > naming a computer the same as an existing object will not 
> > yield the desired
> > result, and will often cause unpredicatble results. 
> > 
> > I might not be reading the options correctly, but I see 
> > option one and three
> > as the same.
> > 
> > Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
> > Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
> > Associate Expert
> > Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
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> >   
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Irwan Hadi
> > Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 7:29 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [ActiveDir] Upgrading computers and computer objects
> > 
> > I'm curious what is the best practice or recommended way for 
> > the following
> > case:
> > I have several computers that are joined to the domain, and 
> > I'm going to
> > upgrade some of thse computers with a different computer 
> > (newer), though the
> > UNC name of these computers will remain the same.
> > Should I:
> > 1. Remove the old computers from the domain, install the new 
> > computers, and
> > join them to the domain?
> > 2. Since there are several computers, can I just delete the 
> > corresponding
> > computer objects in the ADUC, install the new computers, and 
> > join them to
> > the domain?
> > 3. Just put the new computers in place, and join them with 
> > the same name?
> > 
> > So far, I'm doing the second way, because I think it is the 
> > cleanest way.
> > 
> > Thanks
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