Well right off the bat... MS doesn't support Windows on VMWARE; it is best
effort unless Microsoft can determine that the issue can be reproduced on
physical hardware. VMWARE claims this is because of competitive reasons but
MS never supported it even before they bought the Connectix product.

>From what I have heard, our dev guys have actually hit things that they
couldn't reproduce.

Personally I would run Windows on VMWARE all day in a lab (we do) or at home
(I did). I wouldn't even start to consider it for production (never ever
ever). If you want to look at virtualization software for running Windows,
get into the Virtual Server preview program that MS has as obviously the
Windows products will be fully supported on that software. 

IBM and HP both claim full support for Windows on VMWARE. However you have
to keep in mind, what can they really do? If there is a problem with VMWARE
they can send that info back to the vendor. If they find a problem in
Windows they can send that back to MS. They have no power to really fix
anything. I have had a conversation with one of the guys at IBM concerning
the support model and in the end he said, there is no SLA for software
support from anyone - no guarantees... Great! He mentioned that all of their
VMWARE contracts are one offs negotiated specifically with the customer at
hand. But again, in the end, all they can do is pat your hand and say, we
understand, yes that does suck that it doesn't work, but don't worry we sent
someone a note - if we could fix it ourselves we would, but we can't. 

I actually stopped using the VMWARE products at home about 3 months ago and
switched to the MS products as I figured I might as well get used to it. 


Here are some links worth reading:


http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;273508
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=%2Fservicedesks%2Fbin%2Fkbsea
rch.asp%3FArticle%3D320220
http://www.computerworld.com/hardwaretopics/hardware/server/story/0,10801,87
185,00.html


   joe

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Baudino
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 3:12 PM
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Subject: [ActiveDir] DC's on VMWare





All,

Server consolidation has us heading towards putting production Windows
Server 2003 domain controllers on VMWare VMs using ESX.  We have not yet
deployed AD widely (some business units have it and some don't) but are
working on a new design that will handle all business units.  Our lab is a
combination of physical servers on workstation-class hardware and VMs on
VMWare Workstation4 and on ESX.

However, our direction for production DC's is VMs on ESX unless we find that
it doesn't work properly or well enough.  We're going to be testing this in
the lab.  I've seen recent emails about using VMs to spin off labs.
But does anyone have experience running production DC's on VMs or any known
"gotcha's" that they're willing to share?


Thanks,
Mike Baudino



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