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I've said the same thing for years - in fact, I think the single largest mistake Microsoft ever made was making the NT4 GUI *too* much like Windows 95. The non-technical managers would basically say "well, since you do fine with Windows 95, and this NT thing looks just like it, you'll be fine"
 
I agree with the Unix/Linux thing. We've already seen some of that with RedHat's earlier distros, which started adopting the "install everything by default" approach we all love... It is only a matter of time before the next great Unix (specifically Linux) worm hits...
 
Roger
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Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
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From: joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 9:34 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] [OT] ADC Question

Be happy that someone knows it, even if it is just you... Lots of companies out there don't have anyone who knows it for normal management let alone anything beyond it and they end up going down some very bad roads and hurting very very much. There isn't a lot of impetus out there for people to truly become experts on this stuff because *most* companies expect to get Windows Admins for a song because there are a glut of people who "say" they are Windows admins and some of them even think themselves that they are good. A good quote... "Heck I run this at home, it can't be that hard!". That one is balanced by the "I run this at home and it works for crap, we should be using Linux instead as that doesn't have viruses and bugs.". Both indicate a manager who doesn't have a clue.
 
AD has changed the ball game for what you need out of an Admin. You actually need someone who can think and doesn't think answers from a book should be assumed to be correct. That someone needs to understand computers, not GUIs.
 
I was just exchanging emails with Robbie about something else for a presentation he is doing in March at a conference and my final thoughts were something like.. I hate hearing that Windows machines are shitty machines when in reality it is usually because they are run by shitty admins.
 
UNIX never went through the shakeout that Windows has to go through for quality of admins. Linux may have to go through it though. Basically when people learned to be UNIX admins they generally did it because they were a geek and liked the stuff or had to for work. A large number of Windows admins became them because they played with it at home and figure hey, I can get paid for this. I'm really good at making sure games work on my PC...
 
  joe
 
 
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 8:05 AM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] ADC Question

Yeah. But since I'm the only one here who understands AD beyond normal acct management, it wouldn't have been caught anyway.
 
 

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Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 7:14 PM
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Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] ADC Question

Did you complete a Change Control Request first? ;-)
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Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 11:23 AM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] ADC Question

Nah - this time was because some L-admin (who will rename anonymous, even though his name appears in this email) whacked the server without uninstalling the ADC first.
 
Roger
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Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
-----Original Message-----
From: Kleciak, Clint D B270 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 2:04 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] ADC Question

Roger:
 
I was not in your situation with a mix of 2003, 2000 and 5.5 but I have removed old ADC server entries within the AD with ADSIEdit.  I THINK it was an issue with ADC2000 sp1 or 2 for not deleting itself.
 
 

Clint

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-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 1:56 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: [ActiveDir] ADC Question

I've got an interesting situation that I'm a bit stuck on, and could use all the pointers I can get.

Windows 2000 AD in Native mode, empty root domain and a single domain for 'production' stuff - users, computers, etc. The forest was built from scratch, including the Exchange 2000 Schema extensions, and the Exchange 2000 ADC. We're still an Exchange 5.5 shop, and the ADC was *never* run - didn't even configure a connection agreement.

The problem is that I screwed up, and retired (about 6 months ago) the box on which I installed the ADC. I've just completed installing the ADC for Ex2k3 on a different server. In the ADC Connector Services snap in it still shows the original (now non-existant) ADC. Is there any reason to worry about that being there, and is there any reason to consider a surgical removal via ADSIEdit?

Roger
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Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.

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