Todd-
You should be able to do what you want actually, without having to be at
a DC. Its kind of kludgy, but just try typing the word "Administrators"
(without quotes) into the dialog where you would normally browse for the
group. This is perfectly acceptable and should be resolved to the SID of
the local Administrators group by the client workstations correctly when
they process the GPO. I believe you could even type in the Well-known
SID of the local Administrators group--I haven't tested this but it
should work.

Let me know if that doesn't work.

Darren

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Povilaitis
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 3:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] [Slightly OT] Delete inhibit DOMAIN\Remote
Management group from local admins...

I've done some testing on this and have found that the "MemberOf"
policy, where DOMAIN\Group is to be a member of BUILTIN\Administrators,
must be created on the DC itself.  From a client workstation, neither
the GPMC nor the Security Templates mmc snap-in allow you to do this.

If you only create "MemberOf" policy, then it functions like an "add" or
"merge".  This works well for me where I have different DOMAIN\user
accounts as members of the BUILTIN\Administrators group for various
reasons.

Again, thanks to all for your comments and suggestions.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Willem Kasdorp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 13:10
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] [Slightly OT] Delete inhibit DOMAIN\Remote
Management group from local admins...


Yes, that is the one. I consider it a must-have feature. Consider the
common situation where you want to add a helpdesk group to the local
admins of the workstations. Sure, I can script it, but if I have a GP
then it is so much easier. 

When I first experimented with GP's I thought I had encountered a bug
when it didn't work. It is still a bit convoluted. You would expect two
modes:
add to group, or replace group membership. Still, better than nothing!

--
    Regards, Willem 

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Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Free, Bob
Verzonden: zondag 29 februari 2004 22:27
Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Onderwerp: RE: [ActiveDir] [Slightly OT] Delete inhibit DOMAIN\Remote
Management group from local admins...

Eric Fleischman <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Willem do you happen to have the article that talks about it handy? I 
> couldn't track it down.

This one?

810076 - Updates to Restricted Groups ("Member of") Behavior of
User-Defined Local Groups:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q810076


 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Willem 
> Kasdorp Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 9:15 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] [Slightly OT] Delete inhibit DOMAIN\Remote 
> Management group from local admins...
> 
> 
> It's true. There is a XP post-SP1 hotfix for that. It works through 
> Member Of, that no longer removes all members but just adds the one 
> you need. I believe it works by default on W2003. I just deployed that

> capability.
> 
> 
>> 3. Do something around restricted groups GPO though this is tough to 
>> do when you want different admins on different boxes.
> 
> Can't you set restricted groups to do an 'add' rather than a 
> 'replace'? I thought that was a w2k sp4 / xpsp1 / 2003 change that was

> made. If there is doubt that I can dig up some documentation on 
> it....I'd swear I read this before but it has been a while.
> 
> ~Eric
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 10:56 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] [Slightly OT] Delete inhibit DOMAIN\Remote 
> Management group from local admins...
> 
> You can't stop them from removing it.
> 
> I would think to use one of several solutions once it is removed 
> however. I will let you pick.
> 
> 1. Have a script that watches for the removal of your group from the 
> local admins group. If it occurs, the machine gets kicked out of the 
> domain.
> They
> should get the hint shortly.
> 
> 2. Have a startup script from a GPO put the group back in the admins 
> group every time the machine reboots.
> 
> 3. Do something around restricted groups GPO though this is tough to 
> do when you want different admins on different boxes.
> 
> 4. Set up a special service that monitors that group and makes sure 
> the remote management group is always there. You could write it to be 
> fast enough to put it back before their command that removes it 
> returns from removing.
> 
> 
> When you are an admin of a box it is very difficult to be stopped from

> doing things on the box.
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd 
> Povilaitis Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 6:02 PM
> To: ActiveDir (E-mail)
> Subject: [ActiveDir] [Slightly OT] Delete inhibit DOMAIN\Remote 
> Management group from local admins...
> 
> We have a few developers where their domain user account is a member 
> of Local Admins group.  With this privilege, some have elected to 
> delete the DOMAIN\Remote Management group from the Local Admins group.

> Among other things, this interferes with maintenance routines 
> utilizing WMI and or Remote Scripting.  Is there any to delete inhibit

> DOMAIN\Remote Management group from Local Admins?
> 
> __________________
> Todd Povilaitis
> LAN Administrator
> Huntington Hospital
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> Phone: (626) 397-3392
> Fax: (626) 397-2901

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