Duh, had a moment. The requirement is not that they are on a DC, it is
that they are on a domain-joined machine. Member servers are ok.

I'm no cert guy. :)

Thanks for keeping me in line.

~Eric



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Murray
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 11:47 AM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] LDAPS to DCs

Hi Eric

According to the Step-by-step guide to setting up a Certificate
Authority
(http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/techinfo/planning/security/casetup
step
s.asp) the enterprise CA can be either a member server or a DC.

"The enterprise CA requires the following: 

Windows 2000 DNS Service installed (required by Active Directory). 
Windows 2000 Active Directory installed. Enterprise policy places
information into the Active Directory. The enterprise CA can be either a
member server or a domain controller. 
Enterprise administrator privileges on the DNS, Active Directory, and CA
servers. This is especially important because setup modifies information
in
numerous places, some of which require enterprise administrator
privileges."

Tony

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fleischman
Sent: Donnerstag, 20. Mai 2004 18:30
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] LDAPS to DCs

If memory serves me correctly, that probably stems from the fact that
most
people want to do auto enrollment, auto enrollment need be done from an
enterprise CA rather than a standalone one, and enterprise ca's (root or
subordinate) need be on DCs.

That said, you don't need to do that for ldaps.....you could have a
standalone cert or even a 3rd party cert. So long as the cert in
question is
in the appropriate store (machine store on the dc) and is trusted by the
client (IE appropriate trusted root store config) and other things are
set
up as required (CRL, etc.) you should be all set.

Capimon is a great tool to help troubleshoot issues with this if you
have a
config problem.

~Eric



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 11:04 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] LDAPS to DCs

Not sure about putting the CA on a DC but I can't think why it would be
a
requirement.  You would need a cert for ldaps.

This is probably where the recommendation came from to use an Enterprise
CA
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;247078

However, in light of the question I think this answers your question:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/guidance/secmod154.mspx
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321051

As long as you're not using SMTP for transport apparently.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;222962


Overall, I think the *story* needs to be considered and these articles
re-written (hint hint to MS).

Al
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Myrick, Todd
(NIH/CIT)
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 10:55 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] LDAPS to DCs

I think this thread has been on here before, but I just wanted to verify
it
once more.

In order to use LDAPS on DC's Microsoft Documentation says a CA needs to
be
installed on the DC.

Does anyone have any information on other methods to do LDAPS without
the CA
requirement?

Thanks,
Todd
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