Hunter,

Agreed, have looked into this, but am waiting for the full release of
virtual server before I start doing things like this in the prod
environment.

This will most likely be the go in the long run, and also affords some
really nice flexibility in the production environment with respect to moving
DC's around between newer hardware etc (which poses quite an issue at the
moment).

G.
 

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Sent: Friday, 11 June 2004 2:12 AM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Non DR migration of AD

This situation holds a lot of promise for DCs running on virtual servers. I
know it's come up on the list before, and we have done some testing but
haven't rolled it into production yet. Basically, build a DC on a virtual
server; you can set it up with replication latency and other "abnormal"
settings for DR purposes as an added benefit. At any point, you can shut
down the virtual DC, copy the disk image to an alternate location (lab), and
bring up both the original virtual DC in the production environment as well
as the virtual DC in the lab environment. You'll still have to do some
cleanup and role seizing in the lab, but from the production environment's
standpoint all that happened was a DC shutdown and restarted. 

Hunter

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From: Passo, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 9:34 AM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Non DR migration of AD

But then you should clean up your production AD to remove mention of the DC
that isn't there anymore.

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=216498


-----Original Message-----
From: Rutherford, Robert
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Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 8:21 AM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Non DR migration of AD

Bring up a new DC..
Take it off the production domain and into the lab... Seize the roles?
You will have to do some clean up but it's the easiest way if it's not going
to be linked to your production domain.

Rob

-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn Corbett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10 June 2004 16:00
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] Non DR migration of AD


All,

We are in the process of constructing a Lab to mimic the production AD
system as closely as possible.  Doing a full DR into this environment is
certainly an option, however we have been looking into simply migrating the
AD "structure" and using this as a test bed to cleanup AD (OU's, objects,
permissions, policies etc).

Is anyone aware of tools or procedures to get the major AD configuration
components into a lab using an approach that can be scripted / automated ?
(we may want to do this every few months or so). For example, we have used
LDIFDE to extract the OU structure, users and groups and re-imported these
into the test lab.  By and large this has worked very well (took some
tweaking of the LDIFDE commands to resolve some constraint violations etc),
however items such as OU security and policies is causing a bit more of a
headache.

Any thoughts ?

TIA

Glenn


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